<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
  </head>
  <body>
    <p>I endorse Erik's comments and perspective.</p>
    <p>K. Garl Long <br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/28/23 12:31,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:erik@egmrealestate.com">erik@egmrealestate.com</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:3D572E14-AE77-4B40-9EA6-723302E262FF@hxcore.ol">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered
        medium)">
      <style>@font-face
        {font-family:"Cambria Math";
        panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}@font-face
        {font-family:Calibri;
        panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}@font-face
        {font-family:"Times New Roman \(Body CS\)";
        panose-1:2 2 6 3 5 4 5 2 3 4;}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {margin:0in;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
        mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;}p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph
        {mso-style-priority:34;
        margin-top:0in;
        margin-right:0in;
        margin-bottom:0in;
        margin-left:.5in;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
        mso-ligatures:standardcontextual;}span.EmailStyle17
        {mso-style-type:personal-compose;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
        color:windowtext;}.MsoChpDefault
        {mso-style-type:export-only;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}div.WordSection1
        {page:WordSection1;}ol
        {margin-bottom:0in;}ul
        {margin-bottom:0in;}</style>
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <p class="MsoNormal">Nathan,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">In regard to notarizing leases longer than
          one year, I would like to offer some thoughts.  As a matter of
          background, in my career I have been a commercial real estate
          attorney, commercial real estate broker, and an owner and
          operator of commercial real estate.  So I have seen this stuff
          from several relevant angles.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I support the proposed legislation,
          HOWEVER, I encourage a modification.  <b>I would encourage a
            continuing requirement for notarization of leases that are
            longer than 10 years.</b>  Here is my reasoning:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"> Consistency
            in Approach.  A lease of 99 years is not that different than
            a conveyance.  If we are going to require notarization in
            deeds, I think the same reasoning would result in the
            requirement for notarization of long-term leases.  <o:p></o:p></li>
        </ol>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="2">
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Opportunity
            for Abuse.  I believe the reasoning behind our requirement
            for notarization of deeds is to (a) prevent fraud and (b)
            allow for more efficient resolution of disputes in the
            instance of alleged fraud.  If someone produces a copy of a
            99 year lease 30 years after it was allegedly signed, and
            the purported lessor is deceased, it will be difficult for
            the parties to resolve whether or not the lease is in fact
            authentic.  This difficulty is compounded by the fact that
            leases are not customarily recorded. The opportunity for
            abuse is that an unscrupulous party can produce a 99 year
            lease with a signature of a deceased person, and cause all
            sorts of difficulty for the owners of the land affected by
            the lease.  <br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></li>
        </ol>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Although I am not
          very familiar with the law around testamentary wills, I
          believe there is a similarity to long term leases, in that it
          is inherently likely in regard to both types of documents that
          the authenticity of the document may be called into question
          at a time that the signatory to the document is deceased.  In
          testamentary wills, witnesses are required.  For long term
          leases, a requirement for notarization would serve that role. 
          (I believe some states require witnesses for long term leases;
          but for consistency with the remainder of Washington’s real
          estate conveyance law and custom, using notaries for long term
          leases, rather than witnesses, is likely the right answer.)<br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="3">
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Recording
            Laws.  Generally documents that are to be recorded must be
            notarized.  While a person could still get a lease
            notarized, it will cease to be custom to do so.  In my
            opinion it would be good if long-term leases remained in a
            form that could be recorded.<br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Minimal
            Unintended Effect.  If we require notarization of leases
            with a term longer than 10 years (and I would encourage an
            express statement that renewal or extension terms are to be
            disregarded in the calculation of the term for the purposes
            of the notarization requirement), it will affect only a very
            very small percentage of leases; and those lease that it
            does effect are serious ones with significant terms, where
            the minimal hurdle of notarization is probably a good thing
            in that it prevents the parties from rushing to signature.<o:p></o:p></li>
        </ol>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I hope this input is helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Erik<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:none">-- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#4D573A;mso-ligatures:none">Erik
                G Marks</span></i></b><span
            style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#4D573A;mso-ligatures:none"> </span><span
            style="font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif;color:#4D573A;mso-ligatures:none"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#4D573A;mso-ligatures:none">Attorney
                at Law</span></i></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#4D573A;mso-ligatures:none">
          </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><br>
            PO Box 16247<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Seattle,
            WA 98116<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:none">  <br>
            (206) 612-8653<br>
          </span><u><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue;mso-ligatures:none"><a
                href="mailto:erik@egmrealestate.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">erik@egmrealestate.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Physical
            Office:<br>
            4220 SW Spokane St<br>
            Seattle, WA 98116<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset>
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">***Disclaimer: Please note that RPPT listserv participation is not restricted to practicing attorneys and may include non-practicing attorneys, law students, professionals working in related fields, and others.***

_______________________________________________
WSBARP mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:WSBARP@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBARP@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp</a></pre>
    </blockquote>
  </body>
</html>