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<span style="mso-bookmark:OLE_LINK2"><span style="mso-bookmark:OLE_LINK1">I agree regarding the use of an abbreviated legal. I wouldn’t include one even on the first page however, I believe it is required under
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Wilbur, WA 99185<br>
509 647 5578<o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 19, 2023 9:28 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] rejection re Abbreviated Legal Description on recorded document<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sometimes you can get the full legal description by looking the property up on Washington Digital Archives. I always use the full legal description, but I don’t type it out. I copy and paste from some reliable source because in law school
it was suggested that typing it out may cause a typo which would invalidate the description.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Susan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>SUSAN DONAHUE<o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Williams-Ruth<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 19, 2023 8:45 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] rejection re Abbreviated Legal Description on recorded document<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would simply add that I have established relationships with a couple different title companies and when I am doing a transfer I am able to obtain a property report from the title company at
no charge. Yes, it takes an extra step of me writing to them but what I get in return is their internal report and then a copy of the last recorded Deed or DOT. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The various recording entities are truly modern day examples of a fiefdom that just love to keep people on their toes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 8:33 AM Craig Gourley <<a href="mailto:craig@glgmail.com">craig@glgmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As another old guy, I am with Tom. I never use an abbreviated legal description except on the first page if the true legal is large and needs to be an exhibit. I also never trust anything on the assessor's web site as having any legal authority.
If I can't get a legal description from the title company I use the legal contained in the last recorded deed or DOT with the disclaimer to the client that it may not be accurate due to BLA's or easements recorded subsequent to the recording of the source
document and they instruct me to use it anyway. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 18, 2023 5:44:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] rejection re Abbreviated Legal Description on recorded document</span>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hello Joshua,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I was taught many years ago to always use the full legal description in all deeds and contracts, etc. So that has always been my practice. I have never believed that the abbreviated legal from the
Assessor or even a title company is the correct way to describe the property. But then I’m into this profession for 50 years now and may just be an old guy that hasn’t kept up with the times.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Tom</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua Grant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 18, 2023 3:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] rejection re Abbreviated Legal Description on recorded document<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><a name="m_7712504765434646188_x_OLE_LINK2"></a><a name="m_7712504765434646188_x_OLE_LINK1"></a><span style="mso-bookmark:m_7712504765434646188_x_OLE_LINK2">I just received a letter from a County Auditor who advised that an abbreviated legal description
I used “is not accurate” citing RCW 65.04.045. I looked at that statute and see that it was last amended in 2005. Notwithstanding using, what the county shows as an abbreviated legal on their Assessor’s website, hundreds of times since 2005, the Auditor
now advises that what must be used is “the name of the Plat, do not use Org. or Orig Add”. The statute reads”
</span><span style="mso-bookmark:m_7712504765434646188_x_OLE_LINK2"></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black;background:white"> "abbreviated legal description of the property" means lot, block, plat, or section, township,
range, and quarter/quarter section,”.. The name of many of the Town “plats” in this area are shown as Original Addition to the Town of ______. Or “Railroad Addition to the Town of ______.” The auditor goes on to say “The Assessor’s website should not be
used to obtain property descriptions. If you need help with a legal description or an abbreviated legal description, please contact a title company or surveyor”. My guess is that some memo has come from the State, possibly the Department of Revenue, Excise
Tax section??? Because this isn’t a new statute. It’s not bad enough that the recording fee is now over $200 for the first page… but now we have to get a title report to record a simple gift deed?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">Anyone have any authority to counter the legal advice I have received from an Auditor’s Office?
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#004080">Joshua F. Grant</span></b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#004080"><br>
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</span><span style="color:#004080">P. O. Box 619<br>
Wilbur, WA 99185<br>
509 647 5578</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><a href="mailto:jgrant@advocateslg.com" target="_blank">jgrant@advocateslg.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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