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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Interesting line of posts because someone from a rural county posted here in the past and said that their recorder refuses redacted death certificates because that was altering
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 30, 2023 8:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The statute says "except those generated by government agencies", but if the Recorder's Office thinks it applies to death certificates anyway, I'll do it. I am tired of having
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<span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=65.04.080" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(43,103,77)">65.04.080</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></h3>
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must file, or file and record the same without delay, together with the acknowledgments, proofs, and certificates written or printed upon or annexed to the same, with the plats, surveys, schedules and other papers thereto annexed, in the order and as of the
time when the same was received for filing or record, and must note on the instrument filed, or at the foot of the record the exact time of its reception, and the name of the person at whose request it was filed or filed and recorded. However, the county auditor
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<p class="MsoNormal">Record the certified death certificate (both sides) and on the cover page, reference the recording number of the community property agreement. Be sure to redact the mother's maiden name, date of birth and social security number.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 7:46 AM Lynn Clare <<a href="mailto:lynnclare@clarelawfirm.com" target="_blank">lynnclare@clarelawfirm.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Lovely Client and Spouse executed and recorded a community property agreement in the 70's. Spouse recently passed away.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Is recording the death certificate enough to provide notice that the LC is now the sole owner of the real estate, or should there be some kind of deed and REETA with the death
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">If the latter, what kind of deed?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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