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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">Do you think that the "subject to" language I proposed in my most recent email on the topic would be effective to exclude it from the effect of the warranty in
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Whitehouse<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08/04/2023 3:45 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 4<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> The nature of the possession, i.e. either hostile or permissive, is determined at the time of entry and can only be changed by a distinct and positive act. So unilateral
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> If the buyer is fine with it, you must exclude that from the effect of the warranty in the deed. Disclosure does not cure it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> 1. Re: Defeating Prospective Adverse Possession Claim (Carmen Rowe)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> 2. Re: WSBARP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 1 (Carmen Rowe)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> 3. Re: Defeating Prospective Adverse Possession Claim (Mark Anderson)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> 5. Re: WSBARP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 1 (<a href="mailto:jgrant@accima.com">jgrant@accima.com</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> 6. Juno Auto Response. Re: WSBARP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 12:57:32 -0700<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">From: Carmen Rowe <<a href="mailto:carmen@gryphonlawgroup.com" target="_blank">carmen@gryphonlawgroup.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Subject: [WSBARP] Defeating Prospective Adverse Possession Claim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Client owns real property adjacent to real property owned by "Neighbor."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">The really crappy thing is that it is nigh impossible for an association to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">"rentals" that you can amend to prohibit short-term rentals, and I've seen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">impair such use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Some dissents along the way have pointed out that this use of *Wilkenson *is<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">terrible, as no one could have anticipated use of residences as hotels<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">until the last decade or so (using the words from one such dissent), so how<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">conceived of? you couldn't - thus tying the hands of associations under the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">current criteria of the law re: amendments. There is even a majority<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">But so goes it, until someone persuades the Supreme Court that the law<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">short-term rentals comply with the applicable WA statute (RCW 64.37) - that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">at least provides some threshold requirements (insurance, etc.). Since it's<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">legally required by state statute, it's not a barred amendment/regulation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">etc. - as the problems inherent with short-term rentals almost always<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">involve such violations, so hit the owner's pocketbooks for whatever that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">may help to deter such use, or get the owner very involved in trying to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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letter. The caselaw is unambiguous in this answer, unilateral permission does not stop the clock (and if anything, simply affirms the hostile use). I don't have access just now and won't until next week, but if you need the authority drop me a line and I can
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if you really want to tighten it up, I'd also make sure there is a written disclosure/waiver noting the "time is of the essence if you are buying thinking you'll eject the neighbor yourself" element- say, that the time period for ripening any potential claim
by neighbor resulting from the encroachment "has either already been met or will be in the near future, such timing up to the seller to determine in accepting the property".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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has encroached on Client's property for 9 years. Client would like to avoid any future claim of adverse possession. Client has agreed to sell the property to a third party. The third party is aware of the encroachment and is willing to purchase the property
subject to that encroachment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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either a recorded easement or a license for this purpose. And would Neighbor have to somehow "accept" this permission?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I would argue no effect. The case law is clear that the claim process is for "general charges against the assets of the estate" and I don't think a possessory
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and defects, whatever they may be. Another line of reasoning that confirms that adverse possession isn't affected by the creditor nonclaim statute.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Behalf Of Eric Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Your instinct is correct, the creditor claim process doesn't apply to such claims. The statutory process is only for claims for money "as a general charge against
the assets of the estate," meaning a mere unsecured debt owed by the decedent. A dispute over ownership of specific property that the Estate also claims is not subject to the process. These aren't exactly on point for adverse possession, but see O'Steen v.
Wineberg's Estate, 30 Wn.App. 923 (1982), Compton v. Westerman, 150 Wash. 391 (1928), Gottwig v. Blaine, 59 Wn.App. 99 (1990), Baird v. Knutzen, 49 Wn.2d 308 (1956), Foley v. Smith, 14 Wn.App. 285 (1975).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">For adverse possession, I think it's logical that a creditor claim does not need to be filed. The claimant has actual possession of the claimed property, and
it's really the Estate who should have to file for trespass and ejectment against the claimant. If that suit by the Estate to recover the property is barred by 10-year statute of limitations, then conversely the claimant has to be entitled to quiet title in
themselves.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Let's say the claimant doesn't bother to file against the Estate. The Estate will eventually deed the property either to a buyer or to heirs. At that point
the claimant can sue the current holders of the property, based on adverse possession, and again the lack of a claim against the Estate can't be a problem. Otherwise, every time a property owner died, all adverse possession claims against them would be re-set
to zero, contrary to the principles of tacking of adverse possession.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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to claim limitation periods in probate? In other words, is a claim for a prescriptive easement and/or adverse possession barred if the claimant fails to present the claim within the limitations period set forth in RCW 11.40 et seq.?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I am not finding any authority directly on point. It would seem strange that claims that are considered perfected after the required period would be barred
and I would not call a claimant in this scenario a "creditor," but these surely are "claims."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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use is "residential" in nature. Meals and recreational activities - if simply offering the amenities of the association - are residential. Now, if they were operating say a tour business off the property, that's a business. But has to be something outside
how a resident would use it. That's really the key: are the "activities" the same as someone living there as a resident would? if so, it's "residential" for purposes of covenants.
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reference to the time required/prohibited by leases. A look at Wilkenson alone might lead one to think that so long as the covenants discuss "rentals" that you can amend to prohibit short-term rentals, and I've seen attorneys advise associations as such. Unfortunately,
that's fairly clearly incorrect in my opinion. The subsequent caselaw has not panned out that way. Simply regulating leases does not (per cases subsequent to Wilkenson) lead to allowing an association to amend to restrict shorter time-frames, unless there
is already some specific reference to time-frames in the covenants. You very likely can't even pass regulations that substantively impair such use.
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last decade or so (using the words from one such dissent), so how could you have left the door open to regulate something you couldn't have conceived of? you couldn't - thus tying the hands of associations under the current criteria of the law re: amendments.
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the problems inherent with short-term rentals almost always involve such violations, so hit the owner's pocketbooks for whatever that may help to deter such use, or get the owner very involved in trying to ensure good behavior.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> > On Behalf Of Haylee Hurst<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I am interested in understanding how RCW 6.13.090 works. Homeowner files<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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