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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Craig,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Last I checked, there is no Washington case on the issue and the RCW does not expressly require that a seller disclose any sort of death, but one of the last questions on the seller disclosure statement is, “Are there any other existing
material defects affecting the property that a prospective buyer should know about?” This is usually where the concern about disclosure arises, but I personally do not see how death could be considered a “material defect.”
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have advised clients in the past that, whether a death in the residence is a “material defect” is an issue that Washington courts have not ruled on. The legislature has determined that “murder, suicide or other death” are not “material
facts” that a real estate broker would be required to disclose to a party. RCW 18.86.010(9). Some other states have ruled on this issue. While it is not binding here,
<i>Milliken v Jacono</i>, et al. out of Pennsylvania considered whether a murder-suicide in a home was a “material defect” requiring disclosure based on a similar seller disclosure form to our Form 17. Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court ruled that it was not a “material
defect” and that, “psychological stigmas are not material defects of property that sellers must disclose to buyers.” Non-binding, but worth considering.
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<p class="MsoNormal">If the seller is specifically asked whether there has been a death or suicide in the home, that is obviously a different story.
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<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Suicide disclosure<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Listmates, does anyone know what the seller’s disclosure requirement ( if any) is when someone has committed suicide in a home? Thanks, Craig
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