<div dir="ltr">You have to get a court order. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 2:25 PM Paul Neumiller <<a href="mailto:pneumiller@hotmail.com">pneumiller@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-2302152725007161116">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Question about Alternative Service for Commercial Property Lease<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks – question under RCW 599.12.085 – do you need to petition the court first to get the order for alternative service or as in RCW 59.18.055 (its residential collarlary_) can you simply effect alternative service after multiple attempts
at service are unsuccessful? The language seems to indicate that a court order is first necessary – but its unclear.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:purple">Michael S. Safren, Esq.</span></b><span>
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<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Question about Alternative Service for Commercial Property Lease<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Fellow Listservers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I had a question and was looking to get your collective wisdom and input on an alternative service issue relating to a commercial property lease.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tenant leases a commercial space under their individual name, rather than a business name. Tenant defaults on lease terms and fails to pay rent. After service of 3 Day Notice to Pay or Vacate consistent with RCW 59.12.030(3) and RCW 59.12.040,
tenant fails to pay or vacate so summons and complaint are prepared, but tenant is not present to be served. While other members of the tenant’s business are present, the Individual tenant is not present.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m a little puzzled as to how to serve the tenant the summons and complaint and gain jurisdiction over the tenant.
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<p class="MsoNormal">RCW 59.18.055 allows for alternative service, by posting and mailing. However, RCW 59.18 is for residential landlord/ tenant relationship and again this is a commercial tenancy.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Because this is a commercial lease – would service upon a person or agent in the business consistent with RCW 4.28.080(8) & (9) be considered acceptable?
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<p class="MsoNormal">Aside from motioning the Court for alternative service under CR 4 – does anyone have any thoughts on accomplishing service of process? All input is welcome.
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