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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">The quit claim deeds I can only imagine are the title company’s attempt to eliminate risk of a challenge to the TOD. It would be a rare transaction when I
would require such deeds.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> The one year period seems pretty arbitrary, and again, I can’t support calling it a redemption period. If I cannot insure immediately after death based
on the LOPA, I suppose the passage of 1 year after death might make me more willing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Anderson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 12, 2023 4:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Transfer on Death Deed Questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Yes, I suppose the deed can be challenged, just like any other deed. But that should not make a property uninsurable or unmarketable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Daughter is not reluctant to execute a LOPA – I understand the advisability of that, at least for insurance purposes.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">But I think it is inappropriate to require that heirs sign a quit claim deed for the properties. The heirs never had any interest in the property that falls under the "subject to" language of RCW 64.80.100(2).
In my view, the property is not "subject to" any interest held by the heirs – they held no interest at the time of Mother's death, even as heirs. By operation of RCW 64.80.100(1)(a), any interest held by Mother was automatically transferred to Daughter upon
Mother's death. I can find no express language in RCW 64.80 that addresses anyone's right to contest the transfer upon death deed itself.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Why do you think it is that the title company believes there is a one year "redemption period" as opposed to two years, i.e., 24 months?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Transfer on Death Deed Questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">I would never use the term “redemption period”. All I can think is that the title company is concerned that the deed can be challenged for capacity or undue
influence.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">We do use an affidavit for the purpose of clearing concerns about expenses of last illness, DSHS Liens, Inheritance Taxes; the usual LOPA concerns. We also
want assurances that the TOD was not revoked.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Transfer on Death Deed Questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Dear All:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Mother owned real property. Mother executed and recorded a transfer upon death deed to Daughter in 2021. Mother died in 2022. A death certificate for Mother was recorded thereafter. Daughter wants to sell
the property.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">A title company asserts that, pursuant to RCW 64.80, creditors and parties with a possible interest in the property have one year after the Grantor’s death to contest the transfer upon death deed and are referring
to this as a “redemption period.” In order for Daughter to sell prior to the running of this one-year period, the title company is requiring a fully executed and recorded Lack of Probate Affidavit and Deed from Mother’s heirs. The title company also went
on to (inexplicably) tell Daughter that, “The grantees will be the recognized Heirs of the estate.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">I acknowledge that RCW 64.80.100(2) says that a beneficiary of a transfer on death deed “takes the property subject to all conveyances, encumbrances, assignments, contracts, mortgages, liens, and other interests
to which the property is subject at the transferor’s death, including liens recorded within twenty-four months after the transferor’s death…." Or, in my view, RCW 64.80 does not expressly grant anyone the right to contest the transfer upon death deed itself.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">So why would the title company interpret RCW 64.80 in the way that it did, both as to timing and substance?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>Mark B. Anderson<br>
</b>ANDERSON LAW FIRM PLLC<br>
821 Dock St Ste 209 PMB 4-12<br>
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