<div style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">As I read RCWs 6.36.010, .020, .025, and 4.56.190, it does not become a judgment, and hence a lien on real property, until it is filed with the superior court clerk of the county in which the property is located. Look at the language in Brown v Garrett, 175 WashApp. 357, at p. 367.
<div> The problem you have is that the title company is free to do whatever it wants, even if it views the situation incorrectly. I have been noting lately that title companies have been more restrictive lately for some reason I am unaware of. You might check with another title company.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Not that I am fond of pointing out a loss, but I tried that once. And it did not work.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Listmates. A Friday conundrum. In order to convince a title company to insure a transaction I need to prove something I know to be true but is apparently so basic, nobody has challenged it, thus no case law. In the case of an out of state judgement we all know you must domesticate it before it can be enforced and RCW 6.36 deals with the filing of a foreign judgement and how it MAY be filed. Nowhere in the law can we find where says that a foreign judgment MUST be filed before it can be enforced. Joseph found a case out of Arkansas that is tangentially related but not full on point. Obviously there are lots of arguments but no authority that we can find that is clear and on point to show the title company. Judgement creditor out of California just filed a copy of the CA judgement with the Auditor. Title company wants a court order saying the judgement is not enforceable. Obviously a nonstarter because as soon as we notify the judgement holder of the error of their!<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Not that I am fond of pointing out a loss, but I tried that once. And it did not work.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Listmates. A Friday conundrum. In order to convince a title company to insure a transaction I need to prove something I know to be true but is apparently so basic, nobody has challenged it, thus no case law. In the case of an out of state judgement we all know you must domesticate it before it can be enforced and RCW 6.36 deals with the filing of a foreign judgement and how it MAY be filed. Nowhere in the law can we find where says that a foreign judgment MUST be filed before it can be enforced. Joseph found a case out of Arkansas that is tangentially related but not full on point. Obviously there are lots of arguments but no authority that we can find that is clear and on point to show the title company. Judgement creditor out of California just filed a copy of the CA judgement with the Auditor. Title company wants a court order saying the judgement is not enforceable. Obviously a nonstarter because as soon as we notify the judgement holder of the error of their!<br>
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<div dir="ltr"> ways, they will domesticate it. Any handy citations? Thanks and TGIF<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Eric Nelsen <<a ymailto="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">I agree with you but I think there is a separate problem: the recording of the CA judgment, even if not enforceable, is nevertheless a document clouding title, so the title company isn't going to insure until that cloud is removed. And of course one way to do that is a lawsuit which takes forever, and the other way is to pay the judgment and get a satisfaction from the creditor. Perhaps a discussion with the title company's underwriter and an indemnity from seller might be enough?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On the question: You could point out that a judgment does not become a lien on real property until it meets the requirements of RCW 4.56.200, which only refers to domestic courts. And a foreign judgment doesn't become a domestic judgment until the requirements of RCW 6.36.025 are met. Even if Ch. 6.36 RCW says a foreign judgment "may" be domesticated, the foreign judgment also can't become a lien on real estate until it is domesticated.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I might also consider whether an improper recording of a foreign judgment amounts to slander of title against the creditor. "Slander of title is defined as: (1) false words; (2) maliciously published; (3) with reference to some pending sale or purchase of property; (4) which go to defeat plaintiff's title; and (5) result in plaintiff's pecuniary loss. Pay 'N Save Corp. v. Eads, 53 Wash.App. 443, 448, 767 P.2d 592 (1989) (citing Brown v. Safeway Stores, Inc., 94 Wash.2d 359, 375, 617 P.2d 704 (1980))." Rorvig v. Douglas, 123 Wn.2d 854, 859-860, 873 P.2d 492 (1994). In this case, the "falsity" is the recording of a judgment that is totally ineffective as a judgment-the creditor might just as well have filed a completely forged judgment with the same effect of clouding title with an unenforceable instrument.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Listmates. A Friday conundrum. In order to convince a title company to insure a transaction I need to prove something I know to be true but is apparently so basic, nobody has challenged it, thus no case law. In the case of an out of state judgement we all know you must domesticate it before it can be enforced and RCW 6.36 deals with the filing of a foreign judgement and how it MAY be filed. Nowhere in the law can we find where says that a foreign judgment MUST be filed before it can be enforced. Joseph found a case out of Arkansas that is tangentially related but not full on point. Obviously there are lots of arguments but no authority that we can find that is clear and on point to show the title company. Judgement creditor out of California just filed a copy of the CA judgement with the Auditor. Title company wants a court order saying the judgement is not enforceable. Obviously a nonstarter because as soon as we notify the judgement holder of the error of their!<br>
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<div dir="ltr"> ways, they will domesticate it. Any handy citations? Thanks and TGIF<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Gourley Law Group<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Snohomish Escrow<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The Exchange Connection<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Trustee Services of Washington, Inc<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you to all that responded. It will be interesting to see where this one ends up.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I agree with you but I think there is a separate problem: the recording of the CA judgment, even if not enforceable, is nevertheless a document clouding title, so the title company isn't going to insure until that cloud is removed. And of course one way to do that is a lawsuit which takes forever, and the other way is to pay the judgment and get a satisfaction from the creditor. Perhaps a discussion with the title company's underwriter and an indemnity from seller might be enough?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On the question: You could point out that a judgment does not become a lien on real property until it meets the requirements of RCW 4.56.200, which only refers to domestic courts. And a foreign judgment doesn't become a domestic judgment until the requirements of RCW 6.36.025 are met. Even if Ch. 6.36 RCW says a foreign judgment "may" be domesticated, the foreign judgment also can't become a lien on real estate until it is domesticated.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I might also consider whether an improper recording of a foreign judgment amounts to slander of title against the creditor. "Slander of title is defined as: (1) false words; (2) maliciously published; (3) with reference to some pending sale or purchase of property; (4) which go to defeat plaintiff's title; and (5) result in plaintiff's pecuniary loss. Pay 'N Save Corp. v. Eads, 53 Wash.App. 443, 448, 767 P.2d 592 (1989) (citing Brown v. Safeway Stores, Inc., 94 Wash.2d 359, 375, 617 P.2d 704 (1980))." Rorvig v. Douglas, 123 Wn.2d 854, 859-860, 873 P.2d 492 (1994). In this case, the "falsity" is the recording of a judgment that is totally ineffective as a judgment-the creditor might just as well have filed a completely forged judgment with the same effect of clouding title with an unenforceable instrument.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Covid-19 Update - All attorneys are working remotely during regular business hours and are available via email and by phone. Videoconferencing also is available. Signing of estate planning documents can be completed and will be handled on a case-by-case basis. Please direct mail and deliveries to the Seattle office.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Listmates. A Friday conundrum. In order to convince a title company to insure a transaction I need to prove something I know to be true but is apparently so basic, nobody has challenged it, thus no case law. In the case of an out of state judgement we all know you must domesticate it before it can be enforced and RCW 6.36 deals with the filing of a foreign judgement and how it MAY be filed. Nowhere in the law can we find where says that a foreign judgment MUST be filed before it can be enforced. Joseph found a case out of Arkansas that is tangentially related but not full on point. Obviously there are lots of arguments but no authority that we can find that is clear and on point to show the title company. Judgement creditor out of California just filed a copy of the CA judgement with the Auditor. Title company wants a court order saying the judgement is not enforceable. Obviously a nonstarter because as soon as we notify the judgement holder of the error of their!<br>
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<div dir="ltr"> ways, they will domesticate it. Any handy citations? Thanks and TGIF<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Gourley Law Group<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Snohomish Escrow<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The Exchange Connection<br>
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<div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:MW4PR14MB4634E934E1E0C9577E36F4D2BF2D9@MW4PR14MB4634.namprd14.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MW4PR14MB4634E934E1E0C9577E36F4D2BF2D9@MW4PR14MB4634.namprd14.prod.outlook.com">MW4PR14MB4634E934E1E0C9577E36F4D2BF2D9@MW4PR14MB4634.namprd14.prod.outlook.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Recording the foreign judgment without compliance with WA law probably is not actionable "slander of title" without proof of malicious intent, such as knowledge it is not effective but done anyway to stop a sale or force a seller to pay to enable the closing.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Catherine Clark <<a ymailto="mailto:Cat@loccc.com" href="mailto:Cat@loccc.com">Cat@loccc.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Difficulty proving what we all know to be true.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">That is correct oh Great Sage of Title.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Catherine "Cat" Clark<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: <a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> On Behalf Of Dwight Bickel<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 2:38 PM<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Difficulty proving what we all know to be true.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Recording the foreign judgment without compliance with WA law probably is not actionable "slander of title" without proof of malicious intent, such as knowledge it is not effective but done anyway to stop a sale or force a seller to pay to enable the closing.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">But there is a statute that can be used to seek damages for the recording of any document not authorized by statute, without such proof of malicious intent. Read the "other" language of 4.28.328 that extends its effect beyond a Lis Pendens:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">RCW 4.28.328<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Lis pendens-Liability of claimants-Damages, costs, attorneys' fees.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(1) For purposes of this section:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(a) "Lis pendens" means a lis pendens filed under RCW 4.28.320 or 4.28.325 or other instrument having the effect of clouding the title to real property, however named, including consensual commercial lien, common law lien, commercial contractual lien, or demand for performance of public office lien, but does not include a lis pendens filed in connection with an action under Title 6, 60, other than chapter 60.70 RCW, or 61 RCW;<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(b) "Claimant" means a person who files a lis pendens, but does not include the United States, any agency thereof, or the state of Washington, any agency, political subdivision, or municipal corporation thereof; and<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(c) "Aggrieved party" means (i) a person against whom the claimant asserted the cause of action in which the lis pendens was filed, but does not include parties fictitiously named in the pleading; or (ii) a person having an interest or a right to acquire an interest in the real property against which the lis pendens was filed, provided that the claimant had actual or constructive knowledge of such interest or right when the lis pendens was filed.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(2) A claimant in an action not affecting the title to real property against which the lis pendens was filed is liable to an aggrieved party who prevails on a motion to cancel the lis pendens, for actual damages caused by filing the lis pendens, and for reasonable attorneys' fees incurred in canceling the lis pendens.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(3) Unless the claimant establishes a substantial justification for filing the lis pendens, a claimant is liable to an aggrieved party who prevails in defense of the action in which the lis pendens was filed for actual damages caused by filing the lis pendens, and in the court's discretion, reasonable attorneys' fees and costs incurred in defending the action.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dwight A. Bickel<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 21:57:16 +0000<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Roger Hawkes <<a ymailto="mailto:roger@skyvalleylawyers.com" href="mailto:roger@skyvalleylawyers.com">roger@skyvalleylawyers.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Curious whether any of us have won damages in a trial court for such 'slander'??<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: <a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> On Behalf Of Catherine Clark<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 2:47 PM<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Difficulty proving what we all know to be true.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">That is correct oh Great Sage of Title.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Catherine "Cat" Clark<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Law Office of Catherine C. Clark PLLC<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: <a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> On Behalf Of Dwight Bickel<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 2:38 PM<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Difficulty proving what we all know to be true.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Recording the foreign judgment without compliance with WA law probably is not actionable "slander of title" without proof of malicious intent, such as knowledge it is not effective but done anyway to stop a sale or force a seller to pay to enable the closing.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">But there is a statute that can be used to seek damages for the recording of any document not authorized by statute, without such proof of malicious intent. Read the "other" language of 4.28.328 that extends its effect beyond a Lis Pendens:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">RCW 4.28.328<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Lis pendens-Liability of claimants-Damages, costs, attorneys' fees.<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">(1) For purposes of this section:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(a) "Lis pendens" means a lis pendens filed under RCW 4.28.320 or 4.28.325 or other instrument having the effect of clouding the title to real property, however named, including consensual commercial lien, common law lien, commercial contractual lien, or demand for performance of public office lien, but does not include a lis pendens filed in connection with an action under Title 6, 60, other than chapter 60.70 RCW, or 61 RCW;<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(b) "Claimant" means a person who files a lis pendens, but does not include the United States, any agency thereof, or the state of Washington, any agency, political subdivision, or municipal corporation thereof; and<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(c) "Aggrieved party" means (i) a person against whom the claimant asserted the cause of action in which the lis pendens was filed, but does not include parties fictitiously named in the pleading; or (ii) a person having an interest or a right to acquire an interest in the real property against which the lis pendens was filed, provided that the claimant had actual or constructive knowledge of such interest or right when the lis pendens was filed.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(2) A claimant in an action not affecting the title to real property against which the lis pendens was filed is liable to an aggrieved party who prevails on a motion to cancel the lis pendens, for actual damages caused by filing the lis pendens, and for reasonable attorneys' fees incurred in canceling the lis pendens.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(3) Unless the claimant establishes a substantial justification for filing the lis pendens, a claimant is liable to an aggrieved party who prevails in defense of the action in which the lis pendens was filed for actual damages caused by filing the lis pendens, and in the court's discretion, reasonable attorneys' fees and costs incurred in defending the action.<br>
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