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    <p>That's an interesting thought (death terminates the homestead). 
      My practice area was bankruptcy, and there the status of the date
      of filing bankruptcy was important.  Not sure if probate courts
      follow similar rules, or even if they determine secured and
      unsecured claims.</p>
    <p>But there is the award in lieu of homestead, or whatever it is
      called now.  I would question how that factors in against judgment
      creditors, recorded or otherwise. If the homestead does terminate
      on death maybe something remains in the form of the beneficiary
      homestead rights.  Something for the OP to look at.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kary L. Krismer
206 723-2148</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/29/2022 10:00 AM, Mark Anderson
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">So,
            here’s a thought.  PR is trying to sell the
            <u>former</u> homestead.  Now dead, the owner does not use
            the property as a residence.  The homestead no longer
            exists. 
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">In
            my current view (subject to counterarguments), the judgment
            liens attach to the whole of the property upon the owner’s
            death, so long as the requirements of RCW 4.56.190-200 have
            been met.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
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            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chandra Lewnau<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> 09/28/2022 12:40 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Discussion List
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            <b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Question about when judgments
            become liens against the homestead<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I
              am dealing with my first probate estate where the decedent
              had outstanding judgments. The PR is trying to sell the
              former homestead and the title company has found 4
              judgments they say must be paid before the sale. The sale
              price exceeds the homestead exemption for the county and
              all the judgments together are less than that excess
              value. I'm trying to confirm the PR actually must pay off
              these debts based on the current status of the judgments,
              whether creditor claims are filed or not.</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Are
              all of the following judgments liens against the homestead
              property? I am looking at RCW 6.13.090 (not sure if RCW
              4.56.200 applies to the homestead).</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">One
              judgment was entered in the superior court of the county
              where the real estate is located.  I think RCW 6.13.090
              requires this to be filed with the county recording
              officer so I don't think it is a lien on the homestead.</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">One
              judgment was entered in the District Court of the county
              where the real property is located and that judgment was
              then filed with the county recording officer of the same
              county. I think RCW 6.13.090 says this one is a lien on
              the homestead. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Two
              judgments were entered in the District Court of the county
              where the real property is located. I think RCW
              4.56.200(4) and (5) require them to be filed in the
              superior court and RCW 6.13.090 requires them to be filed
              with the county, so I don't think a lien has commenced.</span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As
              a follow up question, if there is a lien, does the
              creditor have to file a creditor claim? I think the answer
              is no, but RCW 11.40.130 is not completely clear.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#050505">Chandra
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