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    <p>The statewide forms are amended by a group of attorneys I do not
      know the identity of, except Justin Haag of the NWMLS and I
      believe maybe Annie Fitzsimmons of Washington Realtors.  I suggest
      forms changes with some frequency and they agree to something
      slightly less than half.  Sometimes they are even quick about it,
      like when the market started to turn around and I discovered that
      the Short Sale form was inconsistent with the Backup Offer form. 
      Until the market turned that was not really something to worry
      about much.</p>
    <p>As to this inspection report issue, due to problems some buyers'
      agents were creating they originally made it a default to disclose
      the inspection results, but did not specify a remedy.  Then a year
      or two later they changed it to providing that disclosure resulted
      in a waiver of inspection.  Note:  Quoting the inspection report
      can result in waiver because it is "all or part."  Unfortunately
      some agents believe that an inspector's description of a problem
      is how you request a repair to be made.  It is not.  The inspector
      states what is wrong.  The inspection response should state what
      the buyer wants the seller to do.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kary L. Krismer
206 723-2148</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/28/2022 9:08 AM, Roger Hawkes
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">I don’t do a ton of real estate forms work;
          but I am curious about the process by which the forms and
          related requirements get changed; does anyone have first hand
          info about this change for example?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com></a>
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kary Krismer<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 28, 2022 7:06 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com></a>; Erik Marks
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:erik@egmrealestate.com"><erik@egmrealestate.com></a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] NWMLS Form 35 now prohibits
              disclosure of inspection report???<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">Yes,
              it's been that way for some time, with the most recent
              version providing a waiver of the inspection contingency.
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">It's
              a good change because:  (1)  The seller did not pick the
              inspector, and the inspector may be an idiot; (2) The
              buyer will use it to blackmail the seller; and (3) It
              creates disclosure headaches for the seller if the deal
              falls through.
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">I
              once spent considerable time verifying the proper flashing
              with the contractor and architech, where the inspector
              didn't know his stuff.  Later I discovered an obvious
              siding defect the inspector missed.  Both would have
              required work that would have cost $20-30k, but the
              former  was unnecessary.
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">Kary
              L. Krismer
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">John
              L. Scott, Inc.
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">206
              723-2148 
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 09/27/2022 5:29 PM Erik Marks <<a
                href="mailto:erik@egmrealestate.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">erik@egmrealestate.com</a>>
              wrote:
              <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
              am in the process of renewing my broker license and ran
              across something that strikes me as very odd.  I would be
              interested in hearing from people on the list who might
              work in the residential forms space and understand the
              context.  What I learned is that NWMLS Form 35 (Inspection
              Contingency) now provides that the Buyer agrees NOT to
              provide a copy of the Inspection Report to the Seller, and
              that if the Buyer does so, then the inspection contingency
              is deemed waived. <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">My
              first question is why is this in the form?  The only
              answer I can come up with is that the purpose of the
              clause is to protect the Seller from gaining knowledge of
              what is in the Inspection Report so that the Seller does
              need to disclose that knowledge to a future buyer if the
              pending sale falls through.  Is that correct?<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">And
              if so, then holy cow am I confused by the decision to add
              that provision.  There are entire sections of the
              license-renewal-course dedicated to saying that the
              Listing Broker must avail themselves of reasonably
              available information about the property, and cannot
              intentionally keep their head in the sand.  For example,
              one quote from the materials is” "Strategic Ignorance is
              unethical and illegal. Licensees must always conduct a
              reasonably competent and diligent visual inspection of
              property offered for sale and disclose the facts that such
              an investigation reveals.”  Reference is made in the
              materials to Easton v Strasburger, 152 CalApp 3d 90 (1984)
              as the seminal case underlying the principle that
              intentional ignorance by the broker is a breach of ethical
              duty. <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If
              intentional ignorance by a broker is a breach of ethical
              duty, wouldn’t the inclusion of a clause in the PSA that
              prohibits  a buyer from sending a 3<sup>rd</sup> party
              inspection report to the Listing Agent, when the Listing
              Agent knows the inspection report is likely to contain
              material information about the condition of the property? 
              And, although the broker did not draft the form, the
              broker did provide the form and the broker signed the
              form. <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
              don’t get it….  Thank you to anyone who has special
              insight on this issue to share.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Erik<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
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                style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">--
              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><em><b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#4D573A">Erik
                    G Marks</span></b></em><span
                style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#4D573A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#4D573A">Attorney
                      at Law</span></b></em>
                <span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
                  PO Box 16247</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"
                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Seattle,
                  WA 98116</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"
                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">  <br>
                  (206) 612-8653<br>
                </span><u><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue"><a
                      href="mailto:erik@egmrealestate.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">erik@egmrealestate.com</span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Physical
                  Office:<br>
                  4220 SW Spokane St<br>
                  Seattle, WA 98116</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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