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<p>There is an exception for homestead property, where recording
with the county recorder is required. I don't have the cite
handy, but it's been that way for close to 40 years following a
Supreme Court case that held that the lien would not attach to a
homestead until after there had been an appraisal. The recording
was set up as an easier option.</p>
<p>I once had a bankruptcy case where several six figure judgments
were not recorded, including one by an attorney who usually did
record but missed that one somehow. There's also I believe a
Court of Appeals case that found it malpractice not to record
where the debtor filed bankruptcy a few days later. I think that
court may have missed the fact that the recording would have been
preferential and/or the lien avoidable.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kary L. Krismer
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/28/2022 2:14 PM, Josh Grant wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="4">Superior Court Judgments create a lien on
real estate situated in the county where judgment was
entered. at least for 10 years. No recording of a
judgment is required.</font></div>
<div><font size="4">District Court Judgments the abstract of
which is filed with the Superior Court are valid liens on
property in that county (or, I think, any other county
where a abstract is filed).</font></div>
<div><font size="4">District Court Judgments without a filing
of the abstract do not create liens on real property.</font></div>
<div><font size="4">If there is a lien, that will prevent a
sale regardless of whether a creditor claim was filed.
Satisfaction of Judgment lien would fix it.</font></div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Question about when
judgments become liens against thehomestead</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif">I am dealing
with my first probate estate where the decedent had
outstanding judgments. The PR is trying to sell the
former homestead and the title company has found 4
judgments they say must be paid before the sale. <span
style="background-size: initial; background-origin:
initial; background-clip: initial">The sale price
exceeds the homestead exemption for the county and
all the judgments together are less than that excess
value. I'm trying to confirm the PR actually must
pay off these debts based on the current status of
the judgments, whether creditor claims are filed or
not.</span></span></p>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; background-size:
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip:
initial"></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
calibri,sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; background-size:
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip:
initial">Are all of the following judgments liens
against the homestead property? I am looking at RCW
6.13.090 (not sure if RCW 4.56.200 applies to the
homestead).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
calibri,sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; background-size:
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip:
initial"></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
calibri,sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in; background-size:
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip:
initial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif;
COLOR: black">One judgment was entered in the superior
court of the county where the real estate is located.
I think RCW 6.13.090 requires this to be filed with
the county recording officer so I don't think it is a
lien on the homestead.</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
calibri,sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in; background-size:
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip:
initial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif"></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
calibri,sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in; background-size:
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip:
initial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif;
COLOR: black">One judgment was entered in the District
Court of the county where the real property is located
and that judgment was then filed with the county
recording officer of the same county. I think RCW
6.13.090 says this one is a lien on the homestead. </span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
calibri,sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in; background-size:
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip:
initial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif"></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
calibri,sans-serif; MARGIN: 0in; background-size:
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip:
initial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif;
COLOR: black">Two judgments were entered in the
District Court of the county where the real property
is located. I think RCW 4.56.200(4) and (5) require
them to be filed in the superior court and RCW
6.13.090 requires them to be filed with the county, so
I don't think a lien has commenced.</span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
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<span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
arial,sans-serif">As a follow up question, if there is a
lien, does the creditor have to file a creditor claim? I
think the answer is no, but RCW 11.40.130 is not
completely clear.</span>
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