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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Kelby,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for your response. I had not looked at it like you explained; but you make sense!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jeff<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>W. Jeff Davis<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>BELL & DAVIS PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Attorneys at Law</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><br>P.O. Box 510<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>720 E. Washington Street, Suite 105<br>Sequim WA 98382<br>Phone: (360) 683.1129 <br>Fax: (360) 683.1258 <br>email: </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:jeff@bellanddavispllc.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</span></a><span style='color:black'><br></span></span><a href="http://www.bellanddavispllc.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>www.bellanddavispllc.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><br> <br>The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution, or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the sender at </span><a href="mailto:info@bellanddavispllc.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>info@bellanddavispllc.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> or call 360.683.1129.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kelby Derenick<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 21, 2022 4:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Avoiding RCW 64.90 - Common Interest Communities Statute<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I always thought the common interest community was established when the CCRs were recorded, not necessarily when the association was incorporated. I have had cases with unincorporated and incorporated associations that apply RCW 64.38. So I wouldn't think it would matter if the community wants to incorporate now in regards to whether 64.90 applies. I think the controlling date is when the CCRs were recorded. I could be wrong though...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>However, even if RCW 64.38 applies, there are a few statutes in 64.90 that will still apply - see 64.90.080 ( <span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black'>RCW </span><a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.100"><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:#2B674D'>64.90.100</span></b></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black'>, RCW </span><a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.095"><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:#2B674D'>64.90.095</span></b></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black'>, </span><a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.405"><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:#2B674D'>64.90.405</span></b></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black'>(1) (b) and (c), </span><a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.525"><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:#2B674D'>64.90.525</span></b></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black'> and </span><a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.545"><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:#2B674D'>64.90.545</span></b></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black'> apply).</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I found all of RCW 64.90 such a headache to understand.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kelby J. Derenick <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Attorney<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#222222'>10018 Greenwood Ave. N</span></b><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#222222'>Seattle, WA 98133</span></b><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#222222'>Ph. (206) 659-5061</span></b><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#222222'>14 E. Main Street, Suite 207</span></b><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#222222'>Walla Walla, WA 99362</span></b><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#222222'>Ph: (509) 676-9805 </span></b><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif;color:black'>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is or may be legally privileged, confidential, proprietary in nature, or otherwise protected by law from disclosure, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee(s) named herein. 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In 2006, a subdivision was created with recorded CC & R’s. The CC & R’s purportedly established a homeowners association which was expressly unincorporated. It did give the option to incorporate. Nothing was ever done. No board was established, no dues assessed, or were restrictive covenants enforced. Like in the movies, we forward to “present day.” A substantial majority of lot owners want to incorporate in order to establish a board and assess dues, primarily for road maintenance. However, they want to be governed under RCW 64.38 not 64.90. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In reading RCW 64.90.075(4), it appears to say if the newly created community declaration expressly states it is part of the community created before July 1, 2018, that the newly created one is governed under RCW 64.38. I know I can make any argument I want, but will an “unincorporated” association qualify as the preexisting common interest community?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jeff Davis <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>W. 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Washington Street, Suite 105<br>Sequim WA 98382<br>Phone: (360) 683.1129 <br>Fax: (360) 683.1258 <br>email: </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:jeff@bellanddavispllc.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0563C1'>jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</span></a><span style='color:black'><br></span></span><a href="http://www.bellanddavispllc.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>www.bellanddavispllc.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><br> <br>The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution, or copying is strictly prohibited. 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