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On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 02:59:08 PM PDT, <sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com> wrote:
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--></style><div><div class="yiv7622729282WordSection1"><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal">Yes, Jayne, The manufactured home is community property. But I wanted to be clear when I filled out the petition that the parties did not own real property. We’ll have to figure out how to distribute the manufactured home once we are into negotiations about property distribution. He’s probably buy her out.</p><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"> </p><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal">Susan</p><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"> </p><div><p style="" class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.0pt;">SUSAN DONAHUE</span></b><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"></span></b></p><p style="" class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Law Office of Susan Donahue</span></p><p style="" class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">125 West 2<sup>nd</sup> Avenue, Suite “B”</span></p><p style="" class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">P.O. Box 81</span></p><p style="" class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Twisp, WA 98856</span></p><p style="" class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">(509) 996-5944 (phone)</span></p><p style="" class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">(509) 362-9692 (fax)</span></p><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com</span></a></span></p></div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"> </p><div id="yiv7622729282yqt95796" class="yiv7622729282yqt2903786412"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jayne Marsh Gilbert<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:30 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Is a manufactured home real property in Wasington?</p></div></div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">The home may be licensed not considered Real Property. Must be merged</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">into one title (title elimination). As far as dissolution my bet is that the licensed manufactured home is in front of the Court as Community Property (presumed)</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div></div><div id="yiv7622729282yahoo_quoted_3844857786"><div><div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 06:26:14 AM PDT, Kary Krismer <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:krismer@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:krismer@comcast.net">krismer@comcast.net</a>> wrote: </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><div id="yiv7622729282"><div><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">I'm not sure what you mean by the county will presume. I think the concern is more the title company, and what they will insure for the buyer/lender.</span></p><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">We had a situation last year where title had apparently not been eliminated/recorded, but the county had been assessing the mobile/modular as real property. Our situation also involved a probate, and the company that sold/placed the unit on the land was also defunct and its owner dead. Making matters more difficult, the information that is typically inside the unit was missing (cabinets probably replaced), and it was located in King County with their purposefully unhelpful staff, which practically require a writ of mandamus to answer the phone or talk in person. Then the icing on the cake was the escrow picked by the listing agent was a known incompetent who basically didn't let us know she was stumped for weeks until repeatedly pressed (she kept saying she was working on it, when she didn't have a clue what to do). </span></p><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Anyway, for those in a similar situation without enough information on the mobile to eliminate title, I did find a contact at DOL in Olympia who looked at the information we could hobble together, who then told King County DOL to proceed with elimination. If anyone ever needs that contact information I could look it up. Once I got directly involved it only took about two days for that decision to be made by DOL Olympia. Fortunately, the King County DOL office acted promptly and the King County Building Permit folks were not an obstacle, but they probably could have been since they have a say in it too somehow. It was a very stressful closing made more so by an incompetent escrow officer.</span></p><pre><span style="color:#26282A;">Kary L. Krismer</span></pre><pre><span style="color:#26282A;">John L. Scott, Inc.</span></pre><pre><span style="color:#26282A;">206 723-2148</span></pre><div id="yiv7622729282yqtfd53548"><div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On 9/20/2022 2:07 PM, Brent Williams-Ruth wrote:</span></p></div></div></div><div id="yiv7622729282yqtfd38744"><div><div><div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Just want to chime in to say that a County will presume that there HAS NOT been title elimination if there is not one recorded. I had a probate last month where there is NO RECORD of the DOL filings/title but there is no Title Elimination and so the County presumed it has not occurred. </span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">Brent Williams-Ruth</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> (pronouns: he/him)<br clear="none"><i>Attorney-At-Law</i></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p><p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">Law Offices of Brent Williams-Ruth, </span></b><b><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">a division of BWR Consulting, PLLC</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p><p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">Physical Address: 500 S 336th Street, Suite 214; Federal Way, WA 98003</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p><p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:red;">**EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY**</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> All mail sent through the USPS should be sent to the following address: PO BOX 3319; Federal Way, WA 98063 </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">Office/Scheduling Phone:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#004080;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:red;">(253) 285-7751</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">Direct:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:red;"> (253) 285-7453</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Brent@Williams-RuthLaw.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:Brent@Williams-RuthLaw.com">e-mail</a> / <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.williams-ruthlaw.com/">website</a> /</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.facebook.com/bwrlaw"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;">facebook</span></a></span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> / </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><div><div><p class="yiv7622729282MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 2:04 PM Craig Gourley <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:craig@glgmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:craig@glgmail.com">craig@glgmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Manufactured homes are personal property until they go through the title elimination process, at which point they become part of the real property. The title company should be able to tell you if you give them the tax parcel number of the land. </span></p><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com">sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com</a><br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 20, 2022 1:36 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Is a manufactured home real property in Wasington?</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">I have a dissolution where a manufactured home is community property. It sits on the H’s parents property. It is permanently sitting on the property. I understand that various jurisdictions have various requirements to consider a manufactured home real property, but I don’t know what Washington statutes require. Any thoughts would be appreciated. I posed this question to the DRAW list serve because I’d also like to know what difference it may make in dividing the community property if it is real property or not.</span></p><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Thank you,</span></p><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Susan</span></p><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">SUSAN DONAHUE</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Law Office of Susan Donahue</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">125 West 2<sup>nd</sup> Avenue, Suite “B”</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p><p class="yiv7622729282msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">P.O. 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