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    <p>I'm not sure what you mean by the county will presume.  I think
      the concern is more the title company, and what they will insure
      for the buyer/lender.</p>
    <p>We had a situation last year where title had apparently not been
      eliminated/recorded, but the county had been assessing the
      mobile/modular as real property.  Our situation also involved a
      probate, and the company that sold/placed the unit on the land was
      also defunct and its owner dead.  Making matters more difficult,
      the information that is typically inside the unit was missing
      (cabinets probably replaced), and it was located in King County
      with their purposefully unhelpful staff, which practically require
      a writ of mandamus to answer the phone or talk in person.  Then
      the icing on the cake was the escrow picked by the listing agent
      was a known incompetent who basically didn't let us know she was
      stumped for weeks until repeatedly pressed (she kept saying she
      was working on it, when she didn't have a clue what to do).  <br>
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    <p>Anyway, for those in a similar situation without enough
      information on the mobile to eliminate title, I did find a contact
      at DOL in Olympia who looked at the information we could hobble
      together, who then told King County DOL to proceed with
      elimination.  If anyone ever needs that contact information I
      could look it up.  Once I got directly involved it only took about
      two days for that decision to be made by DOL Olympia. Fortunately,
      the King County DOL office acted promptly and the King County
      Building Permit folks were not an obstacle, but they probably
      could have been since they have a say in it too somehow.  It was a
      very stressful closing made more so by an incompetent escrow
      officer.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kary L. Krismer
John L. Scott, Inc.
206 723-2148</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/20/2022 2:07 PM, Brent
      Williams-Ruth wrote:<br>
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          want to chime in to say that a County will presume that there
          HAS NOT been title elimination if there is not one recorded. 
          I had a probate last month where there is NO RECORD of the DOL
          filings/title but there is no Title Elimination and so the
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                <p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 2:04
          PM Craig Gourley <<a href="mailto:craig@glgmail.com"
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Manufactured homes are personal
                  property until they go through the title elimination
                  process, at which point they become part of the real
                  property.   The title company should be able to tell
                  you if you give them the tax parcel number of the
                  land.   </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a
                        href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      <<a
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                      <b>On Behalf Of </b><a
                        href="mailto:sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com</a><br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 20, 2022 1:36 PM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <<a
                        href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Is a manufactured home
                      real property in Wasington?</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">I have a dissolution where a
                  manufactured home is community property.  It sits on
                  the H’s parents property.  It is permanently sitting
                  on the property.  I understand that various
                  jurisdictions have various requirements to consider a
                  manufactured home real property, but I don’t know what
                  Washington statutes require.  Any thoughts would be
                  appreciated.  I posed this question to the DRAW list
                  serve because I’d also like to know what difference it
                  may make in dividing the community property if it is
                  real property or not.</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Susan</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13pt">SUSAN
                      DONAHUE</span></b><b><span style="font-size:12pt"></span></b></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Law
                    Office of Susan Donahue</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">125
                    West 2<sup>nd</sup> Avenue, Suite “B”</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">P.O.
                    Box 81</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Twisp,
                    WA 98856</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">(509)
                    996-5944 (phone)</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">(509)
                    362-9692 (fax)</span></p>
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                        style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:blue">sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com</span></a></span></p>
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