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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Anderson<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">I may be overthinking this process on a Friday afternoon, but here goes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">Husband and wife have four adult children. Husband and wife own real property. Husband died in 2009 with a will – all to surviving
spouse, etc. No probate was filed. Wife died in 2021 with a will – all to (surviving spouse) children, etc. The real property is still in husband and wife’s name. I’ve been asked to open probate for the wife but am now considering a joint probate. I’ve
never done a joint probate before, but it seems like the way to go. I’ve got some questions about this and about this string in general:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Following the wife’s death, how is title to their real property held?
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Who would be identified as the Grantor on a Bargain and Sale Deed? (the answer to this is perhaps the same as the answer to the previous question).<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#002060;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Would a joint probate “short circuit” the deeding process? Or would some sort of “intermediate” deeds be needed (e.g., from husband’s estate to wife and then from wife’s estate to potential buyer)?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#002060;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Notwithstanding a title company’s willingness to insure title using a lack of probate affidavit, wouldn’t relying that create a “hiccup” in the chain of title? As for me, I like to see title pass
by deed, and not by affidavit.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#002060;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Are there any particular pitfalls associated with opening a joint probate versus opening two separate probates, given that the bequests might differ between spouses?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">In advance, thanks for any help, guidance, and example pleadings any of you can share.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Interesting how different counties handle this. In the joint probate I was referencing, the clerk issued letters testamentary (and no letters of administration). The case caption referenced both decedents. Kerry’s point as to a LOPA
is a good one. Since we had to file probate for the deceased wife, we found it very simple just to include the deceased husband and administer as a joint estate. My client already had death certificates for both of her deceased parents so there wasn’t really
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 2:05 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [WSBARP] Joint probate question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Island County allowed me to do this last week. The clerk’s office prepared two Letters, one for the intestate probate and one for the testate probate but listing the same
cause number. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I’m starting a probate in King County, Husband passed in 2019 intestate, Wife passed in 2022 with a Will. Only child is named as Executor in the Will. No other children of either. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Can I start a joint probate, where I need an Administrator for Husband’s estate and an Executor for Wife’s estate? Really the only thing we’re dealing with jointly is the real estate (but I don’t want to leave
it to chance with whether the title co will have an issue with deceased husband still on title). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I(‘ve done several joint probates, but this is the first time one had a will and the other didn’t. if anyone has a petition that I can take a look at (and pirate), I’d really appreciate it! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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