<div style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I think Eric's analysis is spot on. Forgetting about HIPPA, unless the patient authorized the release of the records,
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<div dir="ltr">All of these folks are outstanding humans and builders:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">JAS Design Build: <a href="https://jasdesignbuild.com/" target="_blank">https://jasdesignbuild.com/</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Huus Contruct: <a href="http://www.huusconstruct.com/" target="_blank">http://www.huusconstruct.com/</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:098D0346993E6A48B0D5F184C0AB002E8D7B98@SBS2011.sayrelawoffices.local" href="mailto:098D0346993E6A48B0D5F184C0AB002E8D7B98@SBS2011.sayrelawoffices.local">098D0346993E6A48B0D5F184C0AB002E8D7B98@SBS2011.sayrelawoffices.local</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think so on evidentiary basis-lack of foundation. Who is going to testify from personal knowledge as to the authenticity and completeness and true source of the records, or otherwise satisfy the authenticity requirements of ER 901? I assume the "third party" is not the records custodian, and I don't think having documents handed to you from an office is sufficient "personal knowledge" to authenticate. Also there are the typical hearsay objections to the contents of the records (though for medical records that is limited by scope of ER 803(a)(4)).<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Unrelated Third party obtains medical records from patient's doctor. Forgetting the HIPPA issue with the medical provider, can't the patient object to them being used in a court proceeding?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">W. Jeff Davis<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Peter Crocker <<a ymailto="mailto:peterecrocker@gmail.com" href="mailto:peterecrocker@gmail.com">peterecrocker@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Need referrals for builders<br>
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<div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:CAOx53Qgg79CktLYTnaBiOmki0zfg2RXMGO6VuWgBddmWtR2ibA@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:CAOx53Qgg79CktLYTnaBiOmki0zfg2RXMGO6VuWgBddmWtR2ibA@mail.gmail.com">CAOx53Qgg79CktLYTnaBiOmki0zfg2RXMGO6VuWgBddmWtR2ibA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">In the interest of transparency, I should point out that I worked for JAS<br>
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<div dir="ltr">for almost ten years before law school, and, at JAS, I worked alongside the<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 11:59 AM Peter Crocker <<a ymailto="mailto:peterecrocker@gmail.com" href="mailto:peterecrocker@gmail.com">peterecrocker@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">> All of these folks are outstanding humans and builders:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> JAS Design Build: <a href="https://jasdesignbuild.com/" target="_blank">https://jasdesignbuild.com/</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Huus Contruct: <a href="http://www.huusconstruct.com/" target="_blank">http://www.huusconstruct.com/</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Ambrose Construction: <a href="https://www.ambroseconstruct.com/" target="_blank">https://www.ambroseconstruct.com/</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Sincerely,<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Law Office of Peter Crocker, PLLC<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> 210 Polk St., Ste. 6A<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> <a ymailto="mailto:peter@petercrockerlaw.com" href="mailto:peter@petercrockerlaw.com">peter@petercrockerlaw.com</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">>> On Vashon island proper, good people, a husband and wife owner builder<br>
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<div dir="ltr">>> *Subject:* [WSBARP] Need referrals for builders<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: <<a ymailto="mailto:scott@scottgthomaslaw.com" href="mailto:scott@scottgthomaslaw.com">scott@scottgthomaslaw.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">In addition, ER 702 governs opinions of experts and you can't back door it<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 12:46 PM<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think so on evidentiary basis-lack of foundation. Who is going to testify<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: <a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Forgetting the HIPPA issue with the medical provider, can't the patient<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Phone: (360) 683.1129 <br>
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