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<p>I like the concept as long as there were some penalty for the
buyer abusing the process, perhaps similar to the statewide form's
waiver of inspection contingency provisions. I don't expect to
see that out of the legislature though.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kary L. Krismer
206 723-2148</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/13/2022 12:55 PM, Jennifer L White
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<p class="MsoNormal">Why don’t they simply legislate a buyer’s
right to inspect following execution of a PSA (pick a # of
days) that cannot be waived? Some will use it, some will not.
Every potential buyer has the opportunity to do it. It seems
to me that would level the playing field of agents/sellers not
accepting bids with inspection contingencies.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kary Krismer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 13, 2022 12:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] HR 1951--Amendment to Seller
Disclosure Statement<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Maybe reasonable knowledge? Someone raised the point of not
remembering what was in a title report they last saw 20 years
ago when they bought. Although I'd question the need for any
question that is answered on a preliminary commitment, like
the covenants question.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>But again, I'm not really focusing on the liability aspects
of Form 17 and that relationship to Alejandre v. Bull, etc,
nor if I were going to change those line of cases would I
restore negligent misrepresentation. It would just be the
actual fraud or fraudulent misrepresentation, and I'm not so
sure I agree with that change because a weak claim of fraud
would prevent summary judgment. I don't mind putting a great
deal of due diligence on buyers, I just wish more sellers and
agents would allow that by accepting offers with inspection
contingencies. The combined harm of contracts without
inspection contingencies is probably far greater than the
combined harm from provable fraudulent activity.<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Kary L. Krismer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>John L. Scott, Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>206 723-2148<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/13/2022 12:06 PM, Catherine Clark
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think if we remove the term “actual”
and restore negligent misrepresentation as a claim, that
would solve the issue you raise. Yes or no?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 13, 2022 7:16 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] HR 1951--Amendment to
Seller Disclosure Statement<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">If you remove the seller
knowledge requirements it would be impossible to answer
“yes” or “no” to the following questions of the
residential form.<br>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">Any of the defect questions
because there may be defects the seller has not learned
of. Actually that is almost certain, most sellers learn a
lot when they see an inspection report on their own
property. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">1C—Encroachments and boundary
disputes. The seller would need to somehow know what
their neighbors think.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">1E—Easements that affect the
buyer’s use (since the seller wouldn’t know the buyer’s
use).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">1G—Studies that might affect the
property. Any number of government agencies could have
done studies on the area that might somehow affect the
property. Even periodic zoning processes might trigger
that.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">3D—Septic questions about
original permitting and possibly even pumping or
inspection if the seller didn’t do those. Also number of
bathrooms if that wasn’t specified back when the septic
was put in.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">4B—Has the basement flooded if
there is no basement.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">4C—Permits if the remodeling was
done by a prior owner.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">4G—Prior inspections since there
is no date limitation and would include prior ownership
periods.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">4J—Basement insulation if there
is no basement.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">5C—Woodstove certifications if
the seller wasn’t the purchaser.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">7B—Does the property contain fill
dirt. If the seller wasn’t around when the property was
developed there is no way of knowing that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">7E—Hazardous substances. That
would require extensive testing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">7F—Has the property been used for
commercial or industrial purposes. That would require
knowledge back to territorial times.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">7G—Soil or groundwater
contamination. That would require testing and the
contamination could be from other properties and totally
unknown.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">7I—Illegal dumping. That could
require knowledge prior to the seller’s ownership.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">7J—Drug manufacturing site. That
could require knowledge prior to the seller’s ownership.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">9B—Did prior owners make any
modifications to a Manufactured Home. That would require
knowledge prior to seller’s ownership.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">9C—Were permits obtained for
those modifications. Same problem.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Kary L. Krismer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>John L. Scott, Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>206 723-2148<o:p></o:p></pre>
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