<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I agree with Kary. I have been recommending $25 - $50 for fiduciary time, and maybe $15 for things like cleaning out the garage for a very long time. I’ve been thinking in King County I need to significantly raise that, especially giving current inflationary trends. <div><br></div><div>John J. Sullivan<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 3, 2021, at 7:55 AM, Kary Krismer <Krismer@comcast.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
  
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    <p>I find the rates discussed here shockingly low.  Are the
      commissioner/judges that tight?  For run of the mill decisions I
      could see a low rate of $25 an hour, but for tax or accounting
      work seemingly $75 an hour would not be enough.  Seemingly fact
      gathering or document review should be at whatever the firm's
      paralegal would be charged out at for doing the same work, and
      although I don't know current rates I suspect that's more than $75
      an hour at most/many places.</p>
    <p>I didn't charge when I was PR of my mom's estate.  I guess I
      wasn't being as generous as I thought.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kary L. Krismer
206 723-2148</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/2/2021 3:12 PM, Nicholas
      Pleasants wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">I’ve
            seen as high as $75/hr approved for a PR that was doing
            accounting/tax work himself, but that amount was rather
            shocking. I think $25-$50/hr is more in the normal range,
            and as Inge said, it should correspond with what the task
            was.
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2B6AA4">Nicholas
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            Law Firm, P.S.<br>
            2300 130th Ave NE, Suite A-101<br>
            Bellevue, WA 98005-1755<br>
            (425) 615-7070 tel/fax<br>
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              on behalf of Inge Fordham <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:inge@fordhamlegal.com"><inge@fordhamlegal.com></a><br>
              <b>Reply-To: </b>WSBA Real Property Listserv
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com></a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 3:03 PM<br>
              <b>To: </b>WSBA Real Property Listserv
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com></a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [WSBARP] Personal Representative Fee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Please
            respond to the list.  I’ve been generally advising
            $20-$30/hr. depending on what the PR had to do to administer
            the estate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#203864">Inge
                          A. Fordham | Attorney</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif">Fordham
                        Law, PLLC</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif">3218
                        Sixth Avenue | Tacoma, WA 98406</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif">Office:
                        (253) 348-2657 | Mobile: (206) 778-3131</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            </b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com></a>
              on behalf of Robert West <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rwest@westlawoffices.com"><rwest@westlawoffices.com></a><br>
              <b>Reply-To: </b>WSBA Real Property Listserv
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              <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 2:50 PM<br>
              <b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">"wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"</a>
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              <b>Subject: </b>[WSBARP] Personal Representative Fee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif;color:windowtext">I would appreciate
            anyone’s input on recent experiences with the range of
            hourly rates that are being approved in King County for a
            family member acting as PR.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            E. West, Jr.
          </span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#05F572"><br>
          </span><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#02A06B">WEST
              LAW OFFICES, P.S.</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#02A06B"><br>
          </span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Attorneys
            at Law
            <br>
            332 1st Street NE <br>
            Auburn WA 98002 <br>
            Telephone: 253-351-9000 <br>
            Facsimile: 253-833-5322 <br>
          </span><i><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue">E-mail:
              <a href="mailto:rwest@westlawoffices.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="text-decoration:none">rwest@westlawoffices.com</span></a>
              <br>
              Website: <a href="http://www.westlawoffices.com/" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="text-decoration:none">www.WestLawOffices.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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