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<p class="MsoNormal">I have not seen any authority for a finding of procedural unfairness (which is what you are talking about) with a present gift between spouses, only for an agreement that characterizes property that is acquired in the future. The deed
has two practical purposes: (1) It vests control in the wife (in this case) of the property during the marriage, and (2) it can act as clear and convincing evidence of a gift if the parties divorce later. See Estate of Borghi, 167 Wn.2d 480 (2009).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Technically, during the marriage, each party has a 50% undivided interest in community property. So a deed, H & W to W, conveys the entire community interest because both spouses must consent to the change in character. However, since
deeds are construed based on intent, a deed H to W would likely have the same effect.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have not had any trouble with a deed, H & W to W in her separate estate for love and affection, requiring excise tax.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
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<p>This is not the issue you're focusing on, but I've always wondered how such deeds could be effective, except perhaps as against a future BFP. If spouses need independent counsel for an effective separate property agreement, why not for a deed too? Particularly
in a non-purchase transaction if the house is the only significant asset owned by the couple.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 9/29/2021 10:24 AM, John J. Sullivan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My only question is what about the wife’s interest? After the H deeds his to her as SP, is her share also SP or still CP? There’s no reason why a property titled solely in one spouse cannot be CP.
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<p class="MsoNormal">That is how I do it Jeff, from H to W with an after acquired title provision. This leaves W as the sole owner and thus free of any community interest. Hopefully that is right....
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 9:53 AM <<a href="mailto:Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com">Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">H & W hold title to their home as husband and wife. They now want to make the house the wife’s separate property. My understanding is the QCD would be from H & W to W to create
separate property. However, in looking at WAC 458-61A-203 it talks about transfers from one spouse to the other that establish separate property. I know this is a real estate excise tax exemption WAC but it raises the question do I just need the H to quit
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