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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Wow! That is how some lawyers can afford to live there!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Sultan</span></i> Office: 423 Main (physical office)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Box 351, Sultan, WA 98294 (incoming mail)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Sultan, WA 98294<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Other offices: we are scheduling in person meetings at various law offices in<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">North King and South Snohomish counties. Virginia will be the person coordinating Where and When and with Whom a meeting will be held. Stay Safe!! Our phone, fax and email addresses are the same as they
have been for twenty five years</span></b><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span></b><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: 206 367 5000; fax: 206 367 4005<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Email: <a href="mailto:roger@law-hawks.com"><span style="color:#0563C1">roger@law-hawks.com</span></a> or
<a href="mailto:roger@skyvalleylawyers.com"><span style="color:#0563C1">roger@skyvalleylawyers.com</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Web site: <a href="http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.hawkeslawfirm.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John J. Sullivan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 11, 2021 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] California Trust in Washington<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If I recall correctly and the law remains unchanged, both the attorney and the executor receive mandatory payments of 7% each, regardless of the amount of work performed. And there are no nonintervention powers. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The cynic in me has a pretty good idea why the legislature has not fixed this system. And the RLT is a decent workaround. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">John J. Sullivan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Sep 11, 2021, at 6:37 AM, Roger Hawkes <<a href="mailto:Roger@law-hawks.com">Roger@law-hawks.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">My understanding about California law is that probate attorney fees are a percentage of the estate and cost a lot. Hence, rlt is the vehicle to avoid probate. What I don’t know is why the California legislature
has not addressed this inequity. Seems weird that percentage fees are required and trust admin fees are not governed?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Sultan</span></i> Office: 423 Main (physical office)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Box 351, Sultan, WA 98294 (incoming mail)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Sultan, WA 98294<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Other offices: we are scheduling in person meetings at various law offices in</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">North King and South Snohomish counties. Virginia will be the person coordinating</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Where and When and with Whom a meeting will be held. Stay Safe!! Our phone, fax and email addresses are the same as they have been for twenty five years</span></b><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: 206 367 5000; fax: 206 367 4005<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Email: <a href="mailto:roger@law-hawks.com"><span style="color:#0563C1">roger@law-hawks.com</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Web site: <a href="http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.hawkeslawfirm.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Doran<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 10, 2021 6:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] California Trust in Washington<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">John:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">So this is still a revocable trust. What you are saying is to amend the Trust to change the situs and applicable law to Washington State, since that is where she intends to live forever.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">A simple amendment, then, changing the situs? And, of course, deeding the property to the existing Trust.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Good. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">P.S. Caveat: your sentiments about the "other attoney's work" makes me think about how simple the Washington probate process is and whether she needs a RLT at all. But Californians have been sold on the RLT
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<p class="MsoNormal">James R. Doran<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 4:45 PM John J. Sullivan <<a href="mailto:sullaw@comcast.net">sullaw@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is it still revocable? If so I usually either do a restatement for migrating clients or at least amend the choice of law clause. My least favorite task is responsibility for another attorney’s work. Especially if I’m not licenses in the
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<p class="MsoNormal">If irrevocable look for a common clause permitting trustee to transfer situs and choice of law. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I think we have been through this before:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">A single California woman moves to Bellingham. (Beginning to be a common occurrence.) She already has a California situs RLT. She bought a home here and wants to put it into the Trust. No problem. Deed
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">However, what sort of issues do we run into if her Trust was drafted and situated in California and now she resides in Washington?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">If I recall correctly, there is no problem. She doesn't have to re-do the Trust. She just needs to put the property into the Trust. Correct?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Thank you.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Jim Doran</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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