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<div> You probably won't find a case directly on point because no one has been dumb enough to raise the issue. </div>
<div> Where you might find a case, and some good language, is where someone has an easement but then later claims adverse possession. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Adverse possession is really a claim regarding the statute of limitations. The defendant, and his predecessors in interest (tacking), which in this case includes the plaintiff, has to have had a cause of action for the last 10 years. Obviously, a person does not have a cause of action to eject himself.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">My first inclination would be Black's dictionary - you can't adversely possess against yourself, ownership negates any argument that possession is hostile.<br>
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