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<p class="MsoNormal">Frivolity wins??<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Shoreline</span></i> Office: 19944 Ballinger Way NE<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Sultan</span></i> Office: 423 Main<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: 206 367 5000; fax: 206 367 4005<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kary Krismer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 8, 2021 6:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Covid clause in construction contract<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I don't see that an indemnification clause is toothless because a potential claimant on an indemnified claim might have trouble proving their claim, at least if the indemnification clause is broad enough to require payment of attorney fees to defend.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I have turned down occupied listings over concern the occupants might claim I didn't do something that might have caused them to catch Covid, even though I'm well aware that their proof would be difficult.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>As to the clause, I wouldn't have a problem signing the release, but a huge problem signing the indemnification, again particularly if it's broad enough to include paying the defense fees, and maybe even if not.<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Kary L. Krismer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>206 723-2148<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 7/7/2021 10:05 PM, Justin Monro wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would agree “toothless” you can’t prove “causation” of infectious disease cases. IMO
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<p class="MsoNormal">Justin Monro<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attorney at Law <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I think that clause is toothless, for the reason you identify.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
<wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 7, 2021 5:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> KCBA Real Property <a href="mailto:realprop@googlegroups.com"><realprop@googlegroups.com></a>; WSBA Real Property Listserv
<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Covid clause in construction contract<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Client’s contractor on a residential remodel has a notice in their contract concerning covid, saying basically that the jobsite is close quarters and there is a risk of infection, and the owner must release any claim if the owner gets covid
from a worker or subcontractor, and also indemnify the contractor against any claim by a third party who says they got covid from a worker on the jobsite.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone have some understanding on how these kinds of covid-related liability clauses are usually being handled in the Puget Sound area? I assume there’s no insurance to be had that covers risk of infection of covid. But this clause
seems a bit extreme, to force a homeowner to indemnify if, say, a guest gets covid after being at their house.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It also seems like paranoia. How the heck is anyone going to prove in a court a law that they caught covid specifically from a worker at a jobsite?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></p>
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