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<div dir="ltr">From: Andrew Hay <<a ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Bryce - thanks - I've got the notice going out to builder and lienholder. But the lien was not frivolous when filed because the builder didn't pay, so is it now frivolous now that the time to foreclose has passed. If not, I am wondering if the fees allowed in RCW 60.04.181 would apply in an action to remove the lien.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ive had great success in having title co insure against it where it is clear that the 8 months have passed and cannot be foreclosed otherwise threaten the lien filer with suit for damages and atty fees under the statute to get them to voluntarily remove it.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Client has a lien filed May 2020 on his property for a furnace installed during construction. General and furnace supplier got in a fight and bill remains unresolved. Homeowner wants to refi but lien is a cloud on title.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Of course there is a claim against the contractor<br>
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<div dir="ltr">No action was filed to foreclose so the lien is not foreclosable. Does the expiration of the lien now make it removable as a frivolous lien? Is there any other way to get fees in an action against the supplier?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Bryce - thanks - I've got the notice going out to builder and lienholder. But the lien was not frivolous when filed because the builder didn't pay, so is it now frivolous now that the time to foreclose has passed. If not, I am wondering if the fees allowed in RCW 60.04.181 would apply in an action to remove the lien.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ive had great success in having title co insure against it where it is clear that the 8 months have passed and cannot be foreclosed otherwise threaten the lien filer with suit for damages and atty fees under the statute to get them to voluntarily remove it.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Client has a lien filed May 2020 on his property for a furnace installed during construction. General and furnace supplier got in a fight and bill remains unresolved. Homeowner wants to refi but lien is a cloud on title.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Of course there is a claim against the contractor<br>
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<div dir="ltr">No action was filed to foreclose so the lien is not foreclosable. Does the expiration of the lien now make it removable as a frivolous lien? Is there any other way to get fees in an action against the supplier?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Andrew Hay<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hay & Swann PLLC<br>
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<div dir="ltr">201 S. 34th St.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Tacoma, WA 98418<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks again Bryce - maybe it would be helpful in quiet title cases and declaratory judgment cases to have a discretionary fee award statute like RCW 7.28.085 in adverse possession cases. Gives a little more oomph to the demand to clear up the issue.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I don't think so I note that in action to quiet title to outlawed deed of trust or mortgage under RCW 7.28.300 atty fees are not mentioned as being recoverable<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Bryce - thanks - I've got the notice going out to builder and lienholder. But the lien was not frivolous when filed because the builder didn't pay, so is it now frivolous now that the time to foreclose has passed. If not, I am wondering if the fees allowed in RCW 60.04.181 would apply in an action to remove the lien.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ive had great success in having title co insure against it where it is clear that the 8 months have passed and cannot be foreclosed otherwise threaten the lien filer with suit for damages and atty fees under the statute to get them to voluntarily remove it.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: [WSBARP] The lingering lien<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Client has a lien filed May 2020 on his property for a furnace installed during construction. General and furnace supplier got in a fight and bill remains unresolved. Homeowner wants to refi but lien is a cloud on title.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Of course there is a claim against the contractor<br>
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<div dir="ltr">No action was filed to foreclose so the lien is not foreclosable. Does the expiration of the lien now make it removable as a frivolous lien? Is there any other way to get fees in an action against the supplier?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Whether holders of time-barred liens have an affirmative duty to release after statute of limitations expiration is an interesting query, something I run into every so often.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">As with many statutes governing liens, I assume the duty to release under this particular Act is triggered only upon satisfaction of the secured debt, and not expiration of the statute of limitations for enforcing.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I can see the lienholders argument -- I don't intend to enforce, but.... I'm not obligated to release where there was no payment.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ultimately, and even though RCW 7.28.085 doesn't authorize an action against a mechanic's lien, I think you can get the court to quiet it from title as time barred through a general quiet title or declaratory relief styled action.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If you want to recover fees, I would additionally look to the existence of a contract with a fee provision, and what recovery it authorizes. Seems like there should be a contractual relationship between the sub and the owner for the lien to be authorized in the first place.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks again Bryce - maybe it would be helpful in quiet title cases and declaratory judgment cases to have a discretionary fee award statute like RCW 7.28.085 in adverse possession cases. Gives a little more oomph to the demand to clear up the issue.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I don't think so I note that in action to quiet title to outlawed deed of trust or mortgage under RCW 7.28.300 atty fees are not mentioned as being recoverable<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Bryce - thanks - I've got the notice going out to builder and lienholder. But the lien was not frivolous when filed because the builder didn't pay, so is it now frivolous now that the time to foreclose has passed. If not, I am wondering if the fees allowed in RCW 60.04.181 would apply in an action to remove the lien.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: <a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Bryce Dille<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ive had great success in having title co insure against it where it is clear that the 8 months have passed and cannot be foreclosed otherwise threaten the lien filer with suit for damages and atty fees under the statute to get them to voluntarily remove it.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dille Law, PLLC<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Client has a lien filed May 2020 on his property for a furnace installed during construction. General and furnace supplier got in a fight and bill remains unresolved. Homeowner wants to refi but lien is a cloud on title.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">No action was filed to foreclose so the lien is not foreclosable. Does the expiration of the lien now make it removable as a frivolous lien? Is there any other way to get fees in an action against the supplier?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Under the facts you describe I would recommend a talk with the title company; if the lien has expired without any foreclosure action or bankruptcy the title company should be willing to remove it from their title report.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Client has a lien filed May 2020 on his property for a furnace installed during construction. General and furnace supplier got in a fight and bill remains unresolved. Homeowner wants to refi but lien is a cloud on title.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Of course there is a claim against the contractor<br>
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<div dir="ltr">No action was filed to foreclose so the lien is not foreclosable. Does the expiration of the lien now make it removable as a frivolous lien? Is there any other way to get fees in an action against the supplier?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Andrew Hay<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hay & Swann PLLC<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Bryce Dille <<a ymailto="mailto:Bryce@dillelaw.com" href="mailto:Bryce@dillelaw.com">Bryce@dillelaw.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:SJ0PR11MB48932E5D6D11A6DE4C1CDD65C8389@SJ0PR11MB4893.namprd11.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:SJ0PR11MB48932E5D6D11A6DE4C1CDD65C8389@SJ0PR11MB4893.namprd11.prod.outlook.com">SJ0PR11MB48932E5D6D11A6DE4C1CDD65C8389@SJ0PR11MB4893.namprd11.prod.outlook.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">I have an adverse possession action in which Wells Fargo has a deed of trust on a portion of the property in question who if anyone can I serve in the state to get good service on them the registered agent is in Ca which mean 60 days may go by before I can finalize action your comments would be appreciated<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Inge Fordham <<a ymailto="mailto:inge@fordhamlegal.com" href="mailto:inge@fordhamlegal.com">inge@fordhamlegal.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">I?ve never had any luck with getting a title company to let this go. I have, however, successfully petitioned the court to order the lien released based on the expiration of the 8-mo. foreclosure period. In my experience, the trick to requesting fees (and actually getting them awarded) is to send correspondence to the contractor ahead of time with an enclosed release of claim of lien and let the contractor know that unless the signed release is returned within XX days, you?ll file a frivolous lien petition and request an award of fees. It?s helpful to show the court you did everything you could before escalating the dispute. It?s a delicate balance, however, as that can also increase costs and fees and courts rarely give a full fee award on a frivolous lien petition (at least in my experience).<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Under the facts you describe I would recommend a talk with the title company; if the lien has expired without any foreclosure action or bankruptcy the title company should be willing to remove it from their title report.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Client has a lien filed May 2020 on his property for a furnace installed during construction. General and furnace supplier got in a fight and bill remains unresolved. Homeowner wants to refi but lien is a cloud on title.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Of course there is a claim against the contractor<br>
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<div dir="ltr">No action was filed to foreclose so the lien is not foreclosable. Does the expiration of the lien now make it removable as a frivolous lien? Is there any other way to get fees in an action against the supplier?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I?ve never had any luck with getting a title company to let this go. I have, however, successfully petitioned the court to order the lien released based on the expiration of the 8-mo. foreclosure period. In my experience, the trick to requesting fees (and actually getting them awarded) is to send correspondence to the contractor ahead of time with an enclosed release of claim of lien and let the contractor know that unless the signed release is returned within XX days, you?ll file a frivolous lien petition and request an award of fees. It?s helpful to show the court you did everything you could before escalating the dispute. It?s a delicate balance, however, as that can also increase costs and fees and courts rarely give a full fee award on a frivolous lien petition (at least in my experience).<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Under the facts you describe I would recommend a talk with the title company; if the lien has expired without any foreclosure action or bankruptcy the title company should be willing to remove it from their title report.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: <a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Andrew Hay<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Client has a lien filed May 2020 on his property for a furnace installed during construction. General and furnace supplier got in a fight and bill remains unresolved. Homeowner wants to refi but lien is a cloud on title.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Catherine Clark <<a ymailto="mailto:Cat@loccc.com" href="mailto:Cat@loccc.com">Cat@loccc.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:BY3PR19MB493261F3C322C4B28F746DAEA3379@BY3PR19MB4932.namprd19.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:BY3PR19MB493261F3C322C4B28F746DAEA3379@BY3PR19MB4932.namprd19.prod.outlook.com">BY3PR19MB493261F3C322C4B28F746DAEA3379@BY3PR19MB4932.namprd19.prod.outlook.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Looking to chat with someone about the real estate market and practices in Oklahoma City for a client who is moving there.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Teague Pasco <<a ymailto="mailto:pasco@pasco-law.com" href="mailto:pasco@pasco-law.com">pasco@pasco-law.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">See relocation cheat sheet attached. The authority is 49 CFR Subpart D -<br>
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