<div style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I have a question about HOA lien foreclosures. I have been hunting and pecking through the governor's proclamations. It is an unnecessarily tedious process.
<div>While 20-51.6 prevents collection of late fees, I see no prohibition against filing liens and foreclosing. Am I missing something. Also, another interesting point,</div>
<div>the prohibition against late fees only extends to RCW 64.34.304 and 64.38.020. However, prior to those acts, there were many HOA documents that provided </div>
<div>for late fees. The proclamation does not purport to prohibit collection of those. I assume under the contract clause. </div>
<div> Any thoughts on either?</div>
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