<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75">Is anyone else having trouble logging in to the King Co. Recorder's office lately? <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75">I'm unable to login, unable to reset my password and something I recorded last month isn't showing up in the public search. Is it my account or systemic? <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75">TIA, Lisa<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 1:25 PM <<a href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send WSBARP mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Jefferson County Auditor Demanding REETA to Record<br>
Transfer on Death Deed (Dwight Bickel)<br>
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Transfer on Death Deed (<a href="mailto:Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com" target="_blank">Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a>)<br>
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Why is it so difficult for the DOR representatives at the County Recorder to read and follow their own regulations?<br>
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WAC 458-61A-303<br>
Affidavit.<br>
(3) Affidavit not required. The real estate excise tax affidavit is not required nor accepted for the following transactions including, but not limited to:<br>
(j) The recording of a transfer on death deed<br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] Jefferson County Auditor Demanding REETA to Record Transfer on Death Deed<br>
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The Jefferson County Auditor continues to lead the State as the ultimate gate keeper for recording deeds. It just kicked back a Transfer on Death Deed claiming it requires a REETA and, of course, $10. Am I missing something? WAC 458-61A-303(3)(j) specifically exempts a TOD recording from the REETA requirement, which, not surprisingly, in 303(2)(m), requires the REETA to perfect the transfer following the Transferor's death. What should one do, just pay the blood money and be done with it?<br>
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I just sent out the REETA, with the $10, and in my cover letter said I was paying this ?under protest? and then pointed out the WAC sections clearly saying no REETA required until the Transferor?s death. We shall see what happens. Oh, I also left blank the WAC section in paragraph 7 of the REETA; I said I do not know which WAC would apply.<br>
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I agree with all of your comments, clients interests are first, but why should we, the attorney, be put at risk of suit when we are just following the law?<br>
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Ok by me; but our cardinal rule oughta be what is best for the client?<br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Jefferson County Auditor Demanding REETA to Record Transfer on Death Deed<br>
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I understand the position that it's only $10 so you might as well pay it; however, I take issue with municipal workers flexing this kind of power without the requisite authority when, if they make a mistake, they aren't likely going to be sued directly for the harm caused. Attorneys, on the other hand, can be. So even if you advise a client that the law clearly states no REETA is necessary, if the County bounces it back claiming it's necessary and something happens before the issue can be resolved, I could see the attorney ending up on the hook and people suffering real harm. I think that the DOL should be called upon to resolve this. <br>
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On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:07 AM <<a href="mailto:michael@westseattleattorney.com" target="_blank">michael@westseattleattorney.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michael@westseattleattorney.com" target="_blank">michael@westseattleattorney.com</a>> > wrote:<br>
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FYI just thought I'd throw this out there. When involved in a class action early 90's (City of Seattle takings case requiring low income units for approval), Court said that illegal fees collected were voluntarily taxes and were not recoverable. Property owners had to write in "Paid under protest" to be able to collect later. Never followed subsequent cases as to collecting illegal fees, but I got in the habit of writing it on checks paying governmental fees. Mike <br>
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Record Transfer on Death Deed<br>
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Yes; $10 is a small price to pay.<br>
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The Jefferson County Auditor continues to lead the State as the ultimate gate keeper for recording deeds. It just kicked back a Transfer on Death Deed claiming it requires a REETA and, of course, $10. Am I missing something? WAC 458-61A-303(3)(j) specifically exempts a TOD recording from the REETA requirement, which, not surprisingly, in 303(2)(m), requires the REETA to perfect the transfer following the Transferor?s death. What should one do, just pay the blood money and be done with it?<br>
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