<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Good points. <div><br></div><div>1. No FIRPTA withholding on gifts. No gain realized. </div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/exceptions-from-firpta-withholding">https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/exceptions-from-firpta-withholding</a></div><div><br></div><div>2. Yes. If NRA spouse died first there would be a step up in basis even though estate not subject to estate tax.  Perhaps she transfers her interest to a revocable trust for his benefit? Or somehow achieve whatever the objective is while not removing it from her gross estate?</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://hodgen.com/why-nonresident-decedents-get-step-up-basis-at-death/">https://hodgen.com/why-nonresident-decedents-get-step-up-basis-at-death/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Don’t forget to check any applicable treaty. </div><div><br></div><div>John J. Sullivan<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 12, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Kary Krismer <Krismer@comcast.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
  
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    <p>I would take a step back, and if this is just about FIRPTA, find
      out if FIRPTA would even apply with a US Citizen still on title. 
      I sort of doubt it would since they would have a taxpayer to
      reach, but I don't know that.</p>
    <p>And then I would think about the step up in basis on death of
      community property when a spouse passes away, and find out whether
      you'd be giving that away.  Without this transfer and a step up in
      basis there'd likely be little or no gain for several years, and
      even if FIRPTA applied any money taken would be paid back upon
      filing a return.  Note that step up in basis would apply whichever
      spouse dies first.<br>
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    <p>It may be the client is wishing to avoid a non-existent problem
      and creating a future liability.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kary L. Krismer
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/12/2021 6:22 PM, John J. Sullivan
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      If NRA wife gifts now to citizen husband, the unlimited marital
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      <div>I would specify it’s to create separate property and claim
        that REET exemption so if she dies her estate has no CP interest
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      <div>John J. Sullivan<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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          <blockquote type="cite">On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Lisa
            Chiang <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:feesimple7@gmail.com"><feesimple7@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75">Hi all,</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75">A silly question,
                as it's been awhile since I've dealt with this scenario,
                so want to be sure:</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75">Client is U.S.
                citizen.  Wife used to hold a green card, which she gave
                up after they moved overseas a decade ago.  IRS deems
                her to be a non resident alien (NRA) for tax purposes. 
                Kids are also U.S. citizens (all minors currently).  <br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75">Real estate in WA
                state acquired as community property when they both
                lived and worked here.  <br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75">Client would like
                to take his wife off title of WA house (she's
                agreeable).  <br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75"><b>Wondering about
                  gift tax issues before we proceed.  (Will prepare QDOT
                  for other liquid assets). Any thoughts or wisdom from
                  the group is greatly appreciated.</b>  <br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75">Kind regards, <br>
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#351c75">Lisa<br>
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