<html><body><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000; font-size:12pt;"><div>Steve, I think we all should be asking your questions. History repeats its self. Europe's failed experiment with socialism is an example. When governments ran out of money due to its restraints on business and free everything, it first shifted the burden to the landowners and then to the public by raising taxes to fund its policies. Relevant here, an attorney friend in Italy states that if a tennat has any grievance (whether valid or made up) they are told to file suit and they will be given a court date about a year later. Of course they do not have to pay rent while the case is ongoing. They will also get an attorney at government expense. Of course the attorney does not get paid until the case is over. </div><div>So we have the same result here. Allege that pandemic requires shutting everything down (except big business and government still gets paid?) and instead of paying the busineses and people now unemployed, they shift the burden to landowners. <span style="font-size: 12pt;"> Why is it that in Florida and Texas where they have more people and no shut downs, are there fewer hospitializations and deaths? We should all be asking these questions.</span></div><div><br></div><div><img id="sigimg0" title="signature image" src="cid:sigimg0@1d501ed3cf099a0c76a2e285edea59a3" mce_src="cid:sigimg0@1d501ed3cf099a0c76a2e285edea59a3" border="0" alt=""></div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 75, Issue 23<br>
From: Stephen Whitehouse <<a href="mailto:swhite8893@aol.com">swhite8893@aol.com</a>><br>
Date: Fri, December 18, 2020 10:44 am<br>
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<div style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" mce_style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I have one more thought to throw into the mix. What if the governor issued a proclamation that said that you can go to a grocery store and take all the food you want and do not have to pay for it. <div>The only thing you have to do is leave your contact information and sign a promise to pay at a future date. There is no difference between that and the eviction moratorium. The only difference is that in some places, landlords are viewed as well healed bad guys. While that may be true in some cases, in rural communities the landlords are people who live and work here at other jobs. </div> <div> The question is not whether people who have been affected by the virus shouldn't be helped. They should be. The question is how do you do it and who pays for it. What the governor did benefits some people it should not, and puts the burden on a limited class of people. </div> <div> While this debates the ethical merits of what the governor did, as lawyers, we know it cannot be legally justified.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Steve<br> <br> <div style="clear:both" mce_style="clear:both"> <div><span mce_name="strong" mce_style="font-weight: bold;" style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1"><span mce_name="em" mce_style="font-style: italic;" style="font-style: italic;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1">Stephen Whitehouse</span></span></div> <div><span mce_name="strong" mce_style="font-weight: bold;" style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1"><span mce_name="em" mce_style="font-style: italic;" style="font-style: italic;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1">Whitehouse & Nichols, LLP</span></span></div> <div><span mce_name="strong" mce_style="font-weight: bold;" style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1"><span mce_name="em" mce_style="font-style: italic;" style="font-style: italic;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1">P.O. Box 1273</span></span></div> <div><span mce_name="strong" mce_style="font-weight: bold;" style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1"><span mce_name="em" mce_style="font-style: italic;" style="font-style: italic;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1">601 W. Railroad Ave.</span></span></div> <div><span mce_name="strong" mce_style="font-weight: bold;" style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1"><span mce_name="em" mce_style="font-style: italic;" style="font-style: italic;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1">Shelton, Wa. 98584</span></span></div> <div><span mce_name="strong" mce_style="font-weight: bold;" style="font-weight: bold;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1"><span mce_name="em" mce_style="font-style: italic;" style="font-style: italic;" class="Apple-style-span" mce_fixed="1">360-426-5885<br> <a href="mailto:swhite8893@aol.com">swhite8893@aol.com</a></span></span><br> </div> </div> <br> <br> <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black" mce_style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br> From: <a href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br> To: <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br> Sent: Fri, Dec 18, 2020 9:23 am<br> Subject: WSBARP Digest, Vol 75, Issue 23<br> <br> <div dir="ltr">Send WSBARP mailing list submissions to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp" mce_href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of WSBARP digest..."<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 1. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (Kary Krismer)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 2. Re: WSBARP Digest, Vol 75, Issue 19 (Jennifer L White)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 07:28:20 -0800<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: Kary Krismer <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net" href="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net" mce_href="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net">Krismer@comcast.net</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:110299fb-d571-d455-544f-d66190adc4a1@comcast.net" href="mailto:110299fb-d571-d455-544f-d66190adc4a1@comcast.net" mce_href="mailto:110299fb-d571-d455-544f-d66190adc4a1@comcast.net">110299fb-d571-d455-544f-d66190adc4a1@comcast.net</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I'm not seeing that we need a complex legislative fix as much as just a <br> </div> <div dir="ltr">tweak that would simply allow judges to consider the relative equities <br> </div> <div dir="ltr">of the parties after the tenant demonstrates that the pandemic affected <br> </div> <div dir="ltr">their income.? Simply put, we have judges, let them think!? That to me <br> </div> <div dir="ltr">would be better than the legislature trying to think up solutions that <br> </div> <div dir="ltr">would apply to every situation.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">That said I can see why that would not have worked early on because <br> </div> <div dir="ltr">courts were not set up for remote hearings.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The legislature could also add provisions that allow mediation to be set <br> </div> <div dir="ltr">up and a system for paying for it.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Kary L. Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206 723-2148<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">-- <br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" mce_href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 17:23:30 +0000<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: Jennifer L White <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 75, Issue 19<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:BYAPR14MB26134F95BB83DFCE407243FDC0C30@BYAPR14MB2613.namprd14.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:BYAPR14MB26134F95BB83DFCE407243FDC0C30@BYAPR14MB2613.namprd14.prod.outlook.com" mce_href="mailto:BYAPR14MB26134F95BB83DFCE407243FDC0C30@BYAPR14MB2613.namprd14.prod.outlook.com">BYAPR14MB26134F95BB83DFCE407243FDC0C30@BYAPR14MB2613.namprd14.prod.outlook.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">After extensive review, I?ve determined the outcome of this thread! Just exchange the word Facebook with Listserv. Happy Friday!<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[Image.jpeg]<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Jennifer L. White, Esq.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[cid:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:image003.jpg@01D6D51F.70C9BCA0" href="mailto:image003.jpg@01D6D51F.70C9BCA0" mce_href="mailto:image003.jpg@01D6D51F.70C9BCA0">image003.jpg@01D6D51F.70C9BCA0</a>]<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">PO Box 11037<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Yakima, WA 98909<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">509.225.9813<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> On Behalf Of <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:scott@scottgthomaslaw.com" href="mailto:scott@scottgthomaslaw.com" mce_href="mailto:scott@scottgthomaslaw.com">scott@scottgthomaslaw.com</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 6:46 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 75, Issue 19<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">One of the most fascinating discussions I have witnessed in some time. One other aspect to voice, and I do this to disclose my bias, is that the underlying cause of the governor?s order is the pandemic. Seems obvious, but it is easily forgotten. On behalf of my municipal clients, I take part in weekly briefings by the county health department, and less frequently by the state department of health. Watching the caseloads go up while available ICU beds go down in my county has been frightening. At the same time, my clients deal with homeless persons and homeless camps on a daily basis. These individuals are not a separate society, but rather utilize the same grocery stores, gas stations, and other businesses that everyone else uses. And finally, I represent low income tenants through a volunteer legal services agency.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Despite all that, I largely agree with the points made be Stephen and several others, that this is a societal problem that we should all be paying to address. This is clearly not the same as a development project in which the government attempts to have the developer pay for the impacts of a project, but ends up obtaining mitigation for impacts not caused by the project; much of the takings litigation that has taken place over the past 40 years will not be helpful. A legislative fix that does not impose additional controls on landlords, but instead addresses the underlying issue of distributing the cost of emergency housing during a crisis across all of us is probably the best solution, IMO.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> On Behalf Of Stephen Whitehouse<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:11 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>; <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 75, Issue 19<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I suspect that in the large cities, the majority of landlords have sizable units and are well healed. In rural communities, the vast majority of rentals are single family homes that are owned by people as investments to supplement their retirement income.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The moratorium also fails to differentiate between tenants who are affected by recent events and those that are not. There is also the basic issue of requiring someone to provide a benefit to someone else for free. While the proclamation does not<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">absolve tenants of their obligation to pay, any landlord knows that it is usually a wasted effort to go after past due rent. I am not unsympathetic to the problem at all. I am not sympathetic to the governor, in essence, requiring one person to provide free<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">housing to another. When society has a problem it needs to address, it is up to society to pay for the solution. I would gladly support that. But until advocates of the moratorium are willing to dig into their pockets to pay to reimburse landlords for their losses, I am not listening. It is not a question of, is there a problem and should we do something about it, it is plain and simple, who pays for it.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Steve<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Stephen Whitehouse<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Whitehouse & Nichols, LLP<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">P.O. Box 1273<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">601 W. Railroad Ave.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Shelton, Wa. 98584<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">360-426-5885<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:swhite8893@aol.com" href="mailto:swhite8893@aol.com" mce_href="mailto:swhite8893@aol.com">swhite8893@aol.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:swhite8893@aol.com" href="mailto:swhite8893@aol.com" mce_href="mailto:swhite8893@aol.com">swhite8893@aol.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">-----Original Message-----<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2020 3:14 pm<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: WSBARP Digest, Vol 75, Issue 19<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Send WSBARP mailing list submissions to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp" mce_href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">You can reach the person managing the list at<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">than "Re: Contents of WSBARP digest..."<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Today's Topics:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 1. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (Christy M)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 2. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (Andrew Hay)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 3. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (Kary Krismer)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 4. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> (<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" mce_href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" mce_href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a>>)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 5. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> (<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" mce_href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" mce_href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a>>)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 6. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (K. Garl Long)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 7. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (Andrew Hay)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 8. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (K. Garl Long)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 9. January 6, 2021 12:00pm PST Open Forum on Pending Eviction<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Legislation (Roger Moss)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 10. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (Eric Nelsen)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 11. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (Christy M)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 12. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (Stephen Brandli)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 13. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (K. Garl Long)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 14. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (Marvin Benson)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 15. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (K. Garl Long)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 16. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (Kary Krismer)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> 17. Re: Landlord Question - Next legislative session (Stephen Brandli)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 20:34:39 +0000<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: Christy M <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MWHPR04MB0513E7CD1A41EE725EE7CEEBFAC40@MWHPR04MB0513.namprd04.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MWHPR04MB0513E7CD1A41EE725EE7CEEBFAC40@MWHPR04MB0513.namprd04.prod.outlook.com" mce_href="mailto:MWHPR04MB0513E7CD1A41EE725EE7CEEBFAC40@MWHPR04MB0513.namprd04.prod.outlook.com">MWHPR04MB0513E7CD1A41EE725EE7CEEBFAC40@MWHPR04MB0513.namprd04.prod.outlook.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MWHPR04MB0513E7CD1A41EE725EE7CEEBFAC40@MWHPR04MB0513.namprd04.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MWHPR04MB0513E7CD1A41EE725EE7CEEBFAC40@MWHPR04MB0513.namprd04.prod.outlook.com" mce_href="mailto:MWHPR04MB0513E7CD1A41EE725EE7CEEBFAC40@MWHPR04MB0513.namprd04.prod.outlook.com">MWHPR04MB0513E7CD1A41EE725EE7CEEBFAC40@MWHPR04MB0513.namprd04.prod.outlook.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">"Nonsense" is a good way to shut down any sort of meaningful discussion. I cannot say that I am convinced that you are one of the most vulnerable but I am convinced that you will refuse to hear what I have to say.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Have a good day.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">________________________________<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> on behalf of K. Garl Long <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:19 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Nonsense. Many of us "most privileged" were not always so. Stereotyping divides, no matter what *ism is used as a wedge.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 12:13 PM, Christy M wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I bet that all jurisdictions would welcome proposals and ideas.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The discussion on this listserv will always be complicated by the fact that almost everyone on it is socio-economically privileged, and the perspective of the most vulnerable will necessarily be missing.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">________________________________<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> on behalf of Laurel Brown <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" mce_href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com">laurel.brown8385@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" mce_href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com">laurel.brown8385@gmail.com</a>>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" mce_href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com">laurel.brown8385@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" mce_href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com">laurel.brown8385@gmail.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:02 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">What further complicates things are all the municipal moratoriums layered on top of the State one.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:00 PM Christy M <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a>>>> wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The last time I read the moratorium (admittedly, I have not read all of the extensions), the moratorium was on evictions for non-payment of rent. Unless I missed an amendment, landlords can still evict for bad behavior.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">________________________________<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> on behalf of Stephen Brandli <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 11:45 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I do free consultations as a community service and typically get a steady stream of tenants. Lately, I have had a steady stream of landlords. Of the few who have called because they are not receiving rent, they are suffering economic hardship as a result of that loss in income. More importantly, the rest have had real reasons to evict unrelated to money including harassing behavior and boyfriend/girlfriends of non-owning family members who have left leaving the boyfriends/girlfriends who refuse to leave. This law is very broad and has many unintended consequences. I?m not concerned so much about the armor, it?s the sword slashing indiscriminately.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Steve<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew Hay<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:20 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I will take the pro moratorium position. Donning my suit of armor at the same time?..<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic unequaled by any health crisis in 100 years. The moratoriums are a policy protecting the most vulnerable people in the population as a whole ? renters. As a group they are either poor or old or both. They are people who can?t afford homes due to lack of wealth.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">There may be a limited number of seeming injustices to landlords caused by the moratorium, but the harm to vast numbers of renters who typically live paycheck to paycheck ? or social security check to social security check ? would be much greater.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This graph shows the wealth disparity between those who own homes and those who don?t.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[cid:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:part9.9BA1A3E3.0304DCFD@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:part9.9BA1A3E3.0304DCFD@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:part9.9BA1A3E3.0304DCFD@longlaw.biz">part9.9BA1A3E3.0304DCFD@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:part9.9BA1A3E3.0304DCFD@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:part9.9BA1A3E3.0304DCFD@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:part9.9BA1A3E3.0304DCFD@longlaw.biz">part9.9BA1A3E3.0304DCFD@longlaw.biz</a>>]<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The disparity between corporate landlords and renters would be even more ridiculously imbalanced. In a time of crisis, the moratorium policy appropriately shifts burdens to those who can better afford it to protect the overall stability of the state and the nation.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Andrew Hay<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hay & Swann PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">201 S. 34th St.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Tacoma, WA 98418<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net">www.washingtonlaw.net</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438337415621225%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=TqZY2xy9rReb0pHWsTwKZsZaTM%2B5UHbZ3oUSewjsTZM%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438337415621225%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=TqZY2xy9rReb0pHWsTwKZsZaTM%2B5UHbZ3oUSewjsTZM%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438337415621225%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=TqZY2xy9rReb0pHWsTwKZsZaTM%2B5UHbZ3oUSewjsTZM%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438337415621225%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=TqZY2xy9rReb0pHWsTwKZsZaTM%252B5UHbZ3oUSewjsTZM%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438337415621225%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=TqZY2xy9rReb0pHWsTwKZsZaTM%252B5UHbZ3oUSewjsTZM%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438337415621225%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=TqZY2xy9rReb0pHWsTwKZsZaTM%252B5UHbZ3oUSewjsTZM%253D&reserved=0</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.272.2400 (w)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.377.3085 (c)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENT ONLY. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND DESTROY ALL COPIES<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> [mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>] On Behalf Of Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:48 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Washington Landlord Association says that it ?has become a Plaintiff in a state lawsuit to stop the madness as well as supporting a Federal lawsuit financially with the same goal.? 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Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Overcast Law Offices | Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:15 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">As a lowly dirt attorney a little bit beyond my pay grade.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">My observation is that regulatory taking and substantive due process for landlords is largely dead in Washington state (unless you are a tenant) after the Yim I and Yim II (2019) cases. There was an excellent article about those cases in the RPPT newsletter.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Just wait till rent control (aka ?housing stability?) steamrolls through not this session but probably the following legislative session.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">What say wiser counsel?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Jennifer L White<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:53 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rob,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I?m curious if any of you LL/T gurus and/or real property litigators are considering filing some kind of action or class action on a constitutional takings basis? It seems to me that the government has turned private landlords into unwilling purveyors of public housing. All of these regulations/laws were hastily conceived and handed down by fiat. The result has been a tremendous and concentrated loss to private property owners. Perhaps it has to play out further? Have to wait to quantify the exact loss when the moratoriums end and you work through getting them out under all of these onerous ?drag it out? policies benefiting only tenants? We all know that deadbeat tenants are never going to pay up even a tiny fraction of what they owe. That is but a legal illusion of justice for the property owners.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Jennifer L. White, Esq.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[cid:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:part22.12E89511.A81BFF06@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:part22.12E89511.A81BFF06@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:part22.12E89511.A81BFF06@longlaw.biz">part22.12E89511.A81BFF06@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:part22.12E89511.A81BFF06@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:part22.12E89511.A81BFF06@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:part22.12E89511.A81BFF06@longlaw.biz">part22.12E89511.A81BFF06@longlaw.biz</a>>]<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">PO Box 11037<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Yakima, WA 98909<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">509.225.9813<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Rowley, Rob<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:49 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">As I tell my landlord clients we lawyers don't like guaranteeing anything but there is one thing I will guarantee is that the Governor will extend the moratorium sometime into 2021.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Also, I suspect that Pres. Biden (once in office) will also extend the CDC moratorium which is scheduled to lapse on December 31 which is only for nonpayment of rent.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">You also have to look at your local county to see if they are part of the Eviction Resolution Program. 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Who knows what actually will pass as law is a different question. Two things that you never want to see being made is sausage and law.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Summary:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf" mce_href="https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf" target="_blank">https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.constantcontact.com%2F4d179692501%2F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438337415651211%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=gya8EOQcPXmlLo1kdrvAVkhkv1sQEi0ChzmJL7TxcQQ%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.constantcontact.com%2F4d179692501%2F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438337415651211%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=gya8EOQcPXmlLo1kdrvAVkhkv1sQEi0ChzmJL7TxcQQ%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.constantcontact.com%2F4d179692501%2F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438337415651211%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=gya8EOQcPXmlLo1kdrvAVkhkv1sQEi0ChzmJL7TxcQQ%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%253A%252F%252Ffiles.constantcontact.com%252F4d179692501%252F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%257C01%257C%257Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438337415651211%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=gya8EOQcPXmlLo1kdrvAVkhkv1sQEi0ChzmJL7TxcQQ%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%253A%252F%252Ffiles.constantcontact.com%252F4d179692501%252F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%257C01%257C%257Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438337415651211%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=gya8EOQcPXmlLo1kdrvAVkhkv1sQEi0ChzmJL7TxcQQ%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%253A%252F%252Ffiles.constantcontact.com%252F4d179692501%252F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%257C01%257C%257Cd14be93f2b5e4c53937008d8a2ca61cb%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438337415651211%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=gya8EOQcPXmlLo1kdrvAVkhkv1sQEi0ChzmJL7TxcQQ%253D&reserved=0</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If I'm a betting man I would say the Legislature will pass some very tenant friendly provisions tied to the governor lifting the moratorium. In other words, let the Legislature take the flak from those unpaid landlords.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Interesting times we live in.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Spokane<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:32 PM Sangeeta Saigal <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a>>>> wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hello Landlord Gurus,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I understand that there is a moratorium against evictions until December 31st.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">According to how I understand the proclamation this moratorium applies to tenants who have lost their jobs or source of income related to Covid.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Question:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If a residential tenant has not lost their source of income ie. On govt assistance and they are not paying the rent does the moratorium against no eviction rule apply to them.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">How best to approach such tenant who seems to be taking advantage of the moratorium.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Any advice would be really appreciated.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sangeeta<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">***Disclaimer: Please note that RPPT listserv participation is not restricted to practicing attorneys and may include non-practicing attorneys, law students, professionals working in related fields, and others.***<br> 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mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MW3PR13MB3993B47B22BBE9802397284DB2C40@MW3PR13MB3993.namprd13.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MW3PR13MB3993B47B22BBE9802397284DB2C40@MW3PR13MB3993.namprd13.prod.outlook.com" mce_href="mailto:MW3PR13MB3993B47B22BBE9802397284DB2C40@MW3PR13MB3993.namprd13.prod.outlook.com">MW3PR13MB3993B47B22BBE9802397284DB2C40@MW3PR13MB3993.namprd13.prod.outlook.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MW3PR13MB3993B47B22BBE9802397284DB2C40@MW3PR13MB3993.namprd13.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MW3PR13MB3993B47B22BBE9802397284DB2C40@MW3PR13MB3993.namprd13.prod.outlook.com" mce_href="mailto:MW3PR13MB3993B47B22BBE9802397284DB2C40@MW3PR13MB3993.namprd13.prod.outlook.com">MW3PR13MB3993B47B22BBE9802397284DB2C40@MW3PR13MB3993.namprd13.prod.outlook.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Those are all powerful points, forcefully presented - and even with a quote from an enlightened French philosopher!<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">A worthy subject of debate.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Andrew Hay<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hay & Swann PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">201 S. 34th St.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Tacoma, WA 98418<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net">www.washingtonlaw.net</a><<a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net/" mce_href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net/" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonlaw.net/</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.272.2400 (w)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.377.3085 (c)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENT ONLY. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND DESTROY ALL COPIES<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> [mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>] On Behalf Of Christy M<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:14 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I bet that all jurisdictions would welcome proposals and ideas.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The discussion on this listserv will always be complicated by the fact that almost everyone on it is socio-economically privileged, and the perspective of the most vulnerable will necessarily be missing.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">________________________________<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> on behalf of Laurel Brown <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" mce_href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com">laurel.brown8385@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" mce_href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com">laurel.brown8385@gmail.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:02 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">What further complicates things are all the municipal moratoriums layered on top of the State one.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:00 PM Christy M <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a>>>> wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The last time I read the moratorium (admittedly, I have not read all of the extensions), the moratorium was on evictions for non-payment of rent. Unless I missed an amendment, landlords can still evict for bad behavior.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">________________________________<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> on behalf of Stephen Brandli <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 11:45 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I do free consultations as a community service and typically get a steady stream of tenants. Lately, I have had a steady stream of landlords. Of the few who have called because they are not receiving rent, they are suffering economic hardship as a result of that loss in income. More importantly, the rest have had real reasons to evict unrelated to money including harassing behavior and boyfriend/girlfriends of non-owning family members who have left leaving the boyfriends/girlfriends who refuse to leave. This law is very broad and has many unintended consequences. I'm not concerned so much about the armor, it's the sword slashing indiscriminately.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Steve<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew Hay<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:20 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I will take the pro moratorium position. Donning my suit of armor at the same time.....<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic unequaled by any health crisis in 100 years. The moratoriums are a policy protecting the most vulnerable people in the population as a whole - renters. As a group they are either poor or old or both. They are people who can't afford homes due to lack of wealth.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">There may be a limited number of seeming injustices to landlords caused by the moratorium, but the harm to vast numbers of renters who typically live paycheck to paycheck - or social security check to social security check - would be much greater.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This graph shows the wealth disparity between those who own homes and those who don't.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[cid:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:image001.jpg@01D6D472.95643160" href="mailto:image001.jpg@01D6D472.95643160" mce_href="mailto:image001.jpg@01D6D472.95643160">image001.jpg@01D6D472.95643160</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:image001.jpg@01D6D472.95643160" href="mailto:image001.jpg@01D6D472.95643160" mce_href="mailto:image001.jpg@01D6D472.95643160">image001.jpg@01D6D472.95643160</a>>]<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The disparity between corporate landlords and renters would be even more ridiculously imbalanced. In a time of crisis, the moratorium policy appropriately shifts burdens to those who can better afford it to protect the overall stability of the state and the nation.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Andrew Hay<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hay & Swann PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">201 S. 34th St.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Tacoma, WA 98418<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net">www.washingtonlaw.net</a><<a href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438326938440865%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=wwu8vAvbRSnGvIjQhg9gN8gTDwf45M8iv%2BR4B%2Fpie48%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438326938440865%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=wwu8vAvbRSnGvIjQhg9gN8gTDwf45M8iv%2BR4B%2Fpie48%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438326938440865%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=wwu8vAvbRSnGvIjQhg9gN8gTDwf45M8iv%2BR4B%2Fpie48%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438326938440865%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=wwu8vAvbRSnGvIjQhg9gN8gTDwf45M8iv%252BR4B%252Fpie48%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438326938440865%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=wwu8vAvbRSnGvIjQhg9gN8gTDwf45M8iv%252BR4B%252Fpie48%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438326938440865%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=wwu8vAvbRSnGvIjQhg9gN8gTDwf45M8iv%252BR4B%252Fpie48%253D&reserved=0</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.272.2400 (w)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.377.3085 (c)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENT ONLY. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND DESTROY ALL COPIES<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> [mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>] On Behalf Of Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:48 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Washington Landlord Association says that it "has become a Plaintiff in a state lawsuit to stop the madness as well as supporting a Federal lawsuit financially with the same goal." 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Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Overcast Law Offices | Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:15 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">As a lowly dirt attorney a little bit beyond my pay grade.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">My observation is that regulatory taking and substantive due process for landlords is largely dead in Washington state (unless you are a tenant) after the Yim I and Yim II (2019) cases. There was an excellent article about those cases in the RPPT newsletter.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Just wait till rent control (aka 'housing stability') steamrolls through not this session but probably the following legislative session.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">What say wiser counsel?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Jennifer L White<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:53 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rob,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I'm curious if any of you LL/T gurus and/or real property litigators are considering filing some kind of action or class action on a constitutional takings basis? It seems to me that the government has turned private landlords into unwilling purveyors of public housing. All of these regulations/laws were hastily conceived and handed down by fiat. The result has been a tremendous and concentrated loss to private property owners. Perhaps it has to play out further? Have to wait to quantify the exact loss when the moratoriums end and you work through getting them out under all of these onerous "drag it out" policies benefiting only tenants? We all know that deadbeat tenants are never going to pay up even a tiny fraction of what they owe. That is but a legal illusion of justice for the property owners.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Jennifer L. White, Esq.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[cid:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:image002.jpg@01D6D472.95643160" href="mailto:image002.jpg@01D6D472.95643160" mce_href="mailto:image002.jpg@01D6D472.95643160">image002.jpg@01D6D472.95643160</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:image002.jpg@01D6D472.95643160" href="mailto:image002.jpg@01D6D472.95643160" mce_href="mailto:image002.jpg@01D6D472.95643160">image002.jpg@01D6D472.95643160</a>>]<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">PO Box 11037<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Yakima, WA 98909<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">509.225.9813<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Rowley, Rob<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:49 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">As I tell my landlord clients we lawyers don't like guaranteeing anything but there is one thing I will guarantee is that the Governor will extend the moratorium sometime into 2021.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Also, I suspect that Pres. Biden (once in office) will also extend the CDC moratorium which is scheduled to lapse on December 31 which is only for nonpayment of rent.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">You also have to look at your local county to see if they are part of the Eviction Resolution Program. 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Who knows what actually will pass as law is a different question. Two things that you never want to see being made is sausage and law.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Summary:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf" mce_href="https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf" target="_blank">https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf</a><<a href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.constantcontact.com%2F4d179692501%2F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%7C01%7C%7C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438326938460853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YajG2rDD62jhkge3b6SzFyMKnKL2WgJholyD27fUnZ0%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.constantcontact.com%2F4d179692501%2F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%7C01%7C%7C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438326938460853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YajG2rDD62jhkge3b6SzFyMKnKL2WgJholyD27fUnZ0%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.constantcontact.com%2F4d179692501%2F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%7C01%7C%7C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438326938460853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YajG2rDD62jhkge3b6SzFyMKnKL2WgJholyD27fUnZ0%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%253A%252F%252Ffiles.constantcontact.com%252F4d179692501%252F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%257C01%257C%257C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438326938460853%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=YajG2rDD62jhkge3b6SzFyMKnKL2WgJholyD27fUnZ0%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%253A%252F%252Ffiles.constantcontact.com%252F4d179692501%252F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%257C01%257C%257C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438326938460853%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=YajG2rDD62jhkge3b6SzFyMKnKL2WgJholyD27fUnZ0%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%253A%252F%252Ffiles.constantcontact.com%252F4d179692501%252F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&data=04%257C01%257C%257C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438326938460853%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=YajG2rDD62jhkge3b6SzFyMKnKL2WgJholyD27fUnZ0%253D&reserved=0</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If I'm a betting man I would say the Legislature will pass some very tenant friendly provisions tied to the governor lifting the moratorium. In other words, let the Legislature take the flak from those unpaid landlords.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Interesting times we live in.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Spokane<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:32 PM Sangeeta Saigal <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a>>>> wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hello Landlord Gurus,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I understand that there is a moratorium against evictions until December 31st.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">According to how I understand the proclamation this moratorium applies to tenants who have lost their jobs or source of income related to Covid.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Question:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If a residential tenant has not lost their source of income ie. On govt assistance and they are not paying the rent does the moratorium against no eviction rule apply to them.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">How best to approach such tenant who seems to be taking advantage of the moratorium.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Any advice would be really appreciated.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sangeeta<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">***Disclaimer: Please note that RPPT listserv participation is not restricted to practicing attorneys and may include non-practicing attorneys, law students, professionals working in related fields, and others.***<br> 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3<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:08:50 -0800<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: Kary Krismer <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net" href="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net" mce_href="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net">Krismer@comcast.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net" href="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net" mce_href="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net">Krismer@comcast.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:6b90e320-b95e-476b-fe85-0d252ad0e3bb@comcast.net" href="mailto:6b90e320-b95e-476b-fe85-0d252ad0e3bb@comcast.net" mce_href="mailto:6b90e320-b95e-476b-fe85-0d252ad0e3bb@comcast.net">6b90e320-b95e-476b-fe85-0d252ad0e3bb@comcast.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:6b90e320-b95e-476b-fe85-0d252ad0e3bb@comcast.net" href="mailto:6b90e320-b95e-476b-fe85-0d252ad0e3bb@comcast.net" mce_href="mailto:6b90e320-b95e-476b-fe85-0d252ad0e3bb@comcast.net">6b90e320-b95e-476b-fe85-0d252ad0e3bb@comcast.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I wonder if condos with a large percentage of rented units will<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">eventually be adversely affected.? At some point the landlord may stop<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">paying dues if the tenant is not paying dues.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Kary L. Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206 723-2148<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 10:50 AM, Rani K. Sampson wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> The long-term consequences of forcing landlords to absorb large<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> financial losses are predictable: landlords will liquidate their real<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> estate investments (they?ll sell).? Tenants will have much less<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> housing to choose from.? Rental houses will be incredibly hard to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> find.? The void might be filled by corporate landlords building<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> apartments or government landlords building projects.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This is very bad for tenants, long term. The loss of rental housing<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> will affect all of us.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Rani K. Sampson*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Overcast Law Offices |Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 |(509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">--<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" mce_href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/3bd7374b/attachment-0001.html" mce_href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/3bd7374b/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/3bd7374b/attachment-0001.html</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message: 4<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 16:08:52 -0500<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" mce_href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" mce_href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <012e01d6d4b8$d2d16ea0$78744be0$@<a href="http://pplsweb.com">pplsweb.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I was sitting back and watching the discussion. Undeniable fact that we all<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">are suffering due to the pandemic in one form or another and some more than<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">others. Thoughts to ponder, without judgment or pointing out anyone in<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">particular.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">* Should someone suffer financially at the expense of another,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">regardless of degree or socioeconomic background, or does equal protection<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">under law have a finger lifting the blindfold a little in order to put a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">finger on the scale?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">* Does making assumptions on others and name calling strengthen one's<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">argument or does it detract from the discussion and shuts down any<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">meaningful exchange of ideas has to say?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Good day all and stay safe.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Licensed in Florida & Washington<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND DESTROY ALL COPIES<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>] On Behalf Of Christy M<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:14 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I bet that all jurisdictions would welcome proposals and ideas.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The discussion on this listserv will always be complicated by the fact that<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">almost everyone on it is socio-economically privileged, and the perspective<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">of the most vulnerable will necessarily be missing.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> _____<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> > on behalf of Laurel Brown<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" mce_href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com">laurel.brown8385@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" mce_href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com">laurel.brown8385@gmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" mce_href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com">laurel.brown8385@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com" mce_href="mailto:laurel.brown8385@gmail.com">laurel.brown8385@gmail.com</a>>> ><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:02 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> ><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">What further complicates things are all the municipal moratoriums layered on<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">top of the State one.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:00 PM Christy M <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com" mce_href="mailto:talk2much84@msn.com">talk2much84@msn.com</a>>> > wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The last time I read the moratorium (admittedly, I have not read all of the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">extensions), the moratorium was on evictions for non-payment of rent. Unless<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I missed an amendment, landlords can still evict for bad behavior.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> _____<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> > on behalf of Stephen Brandli<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a>> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a>>> ><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 11:45 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> ><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I do free consultations as a community service and typically get a steady<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">stream of tenants. Lately, I have had a steady stream of landlords. Of the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">few who have called because they are not receiving rent, they are suffering<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">economic hardship as a result of that loss in income. More importantly, the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">rest have had real reasons to evict unrelated to money including harassing<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">behavior and boyfriend/girlfriends of non-owning family members who have<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">left leaving the boyfriends/girlfriends who refuse to leave. This law is<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">very broad and has many unintended consequences. I'm not concerned so much<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">about the armor, it's the sword slashing indiscriminately.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Steve<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> > On Behalf Of Andrew Hay<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:20 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> ><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I will take the pro moratorium position. Donning my suit of armor at the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">same time...<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic unequaled by any<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">health crisis in 100 years. The moratoriums are a policy protecting the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">most vulnerable people in the population as a whole - renters. As a group<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">they are either poor or old or both. They are people who can't afford homes<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">due to lack of wealth.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">There may be a limited number of seeming injustices to landlords caused by<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">the moratorium, but the harm to vast numbers of renters who typically live<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">paycheck to paycheck - or social security check to social security check -<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">would be much greater.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This graph shows the wealth disparity between those who own homes and those<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">who don't.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The disparity between corporate landlords and renters would be even more<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">ridiculously imbalanced. In a time of crisis, the moratorium policy<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">appropriately shifts burdens to those who can better afford it to protect<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">the overall stability of the state and the nation.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Andrew Hay<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hay & Swann PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">201 S. 34th St.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Tacoma, WA 98418<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washin" mce_href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washin" target="_blank">https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washin</a><<a href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washin" mce_href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washin" target="_blank">https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washin</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://gtonlaw.net">gtonlaw.net</a>%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%7C84df9e7f<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438326938440865%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">sdata=wwu8vAvbRSnGvIjQhg9gN8gTDwf45M8iv%2BR4B%2Fpie48%3D&reserved=0><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net">www.washingtonlaw.net</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.272.2400 (w)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.377.3085 (c)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE DESIGNATED<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">RECIPIENT ONLY. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND DESTROY ALL COPIES<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>] On Behalf Of Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:48 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Washington Landlord Association says that it "has become a Plaintiff in a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">state lawsuit to stop the madness as well as supporting a Federal lawsuit<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">financially with the same goal." WLA's Executive Director is Everett<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">attorney, Rob Trickler.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">In the meantime, proposed tenant-protections laws for next session can be<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">seen here:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Eviction Reform - Landlord Tenant Protections - Draft - SUMMARY<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Eviction Reform - Landlord Tenant Protections - Stakeholder Draft - FULL<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">BILL<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Overcast Law Offices | Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> > On Behalf Of Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:15 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> ><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">As a lowly dirt attorney a little bit beyond my pay grade.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">My observation is that regulatory taking and substantive due process for<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">landlords is largely dead in Washington state (unless you are a tenant)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">after the Yim I and Yim II (2019) cases. There was an excellent article<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">about those cases in the RPPT newsletter.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Just wait till rent control (aka 'housing stability') steamrolls through not<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">this session but probably the following legislative session.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">What say wiser counsel?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> > On Behalf Of Jennifer L White<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:53 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> ><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rob,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I'm curious if any of you LL/T gurus and/or real property litigators are<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">considering filing some kind of action or class action on a constitutional<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">takings basis? It seems to me that the government has turned private<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">landlords into unwilling purveyors of public housing. All of these<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">regulations/laws were hastily conceived and handed down by fiat. The result<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">has been a tremendous and concentrated loss to private property owners.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Perhaps it has to play out further? Have to wait to quantify the exact loss<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">when the moratoriums end and you work through getting them out under all of<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">these onerous "drag it out" policies benefiting only tenants? We all know<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">that deadbeat tenants are never going to pay up even a tiny fraction of what<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">they owe. That is but a legal illusion of justice for the property owners.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Jennifer L. White, Esq.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>>> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">PO Box 11037<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Yakima, WA 98909<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">509.225.9813<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> > On Behalf Of Rowley, Rob<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:49 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> ><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">As I tell my landlord clients we lawyers don't like guaranteeing anything<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">but there is one thing I will guarantee is that the Governor will extend the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">moratorium sometime into 2021.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Also, I suspect that Pres. Biden (once in office) will also extend the CDC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">moratorium which is scheduled to lapse on December 31 which is only for<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">nonpayment of rent.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">You also have to look at your local county to see if they are part of the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Eviction Resolution Program. Spokane County where I am based out of is a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">part of the ERP and eventually once the moratorium is lifted we have to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">participate in the program.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.courts" mce_href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.courts" target="_blank">https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.courts</a><<a href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.courts" mce_href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.courts" target="_blank">https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.courts</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">.<a href="http://wa.gov">wa.gov</a>%2Fnewsinfo%2Findex.cfm%3Ffa%3Dnewsinfo.EvictionResolutionProgram&dat<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">a=04%7C01%7C%7C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaa<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">aaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438326938450862%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAw<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">MDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=njRAG69f0c9q<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">JmFIm7cZk5erqYyvbO2bq%2BS2gZWWEjQ%3D&reserved=0><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.EvictionResolutionPr" mce_href="http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.EvictionResolutionPr" target="_blank">http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.EvictionResolutionPr</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">ogram<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Also, the upcoming legislative session has a number of bills which will be<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">filed which will essentially make it near impossible to evict a for rent (or<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">anything) anytime soon (month to month goes away for a while). Who knows<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">what actually will pass as law is a different question. Two things that you<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">never want to see being made is sausage and law.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Summary:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.con" mce_href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.con" target="_blank">https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.con</a><<a href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%253A%252F%252Ffiles.con" mce_href="https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%253A%252F%252Ffiles.con" target="_blank">https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%253A%252F%252Ffiles.con</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://stantcontact.com">stantcontact.com</a>%2F4d179692501%2F55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf&da<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">ta=04%7C01%7C%7C09399152ed91402c282f08d8a2c7f1f8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaa<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">aaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438326938460853%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjA<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">wMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YajG2rDD62j<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">hkge3b6SzFyMKnKL2WgJholyD27fUnZ0%3D&reserved=0><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300" mce_href="https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300" target="_blank">https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">174631.pdf<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If I'm a betting man I would say the Legislature will pass some very tenant<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">friendly provisions tied to the governor lifting the moratorium. In other<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">words, let the Legislature take the flak from those unpaid landlords.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Interesting times we live in.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Spokane<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:32 PM Sangeeta Saigal <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a>>> > wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hello Landlord Gurus,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I understand that there is a moratorium against evictions until December<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">31st.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">According to how I understand the proclamation this moratorium applies to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">tenants who have lost their jobs or source of income related to Covid.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Question:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If a residential tenant has not lost their source of income ie. 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href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/f63ddbdf/image006-0001.jpg" mce_href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/f63ddbdf/image006-0001.jpg" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/f63ddbdf/image006-0001.jpg</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message: 5<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 16:23:24 -0500<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" mce_href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com" mce_href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <017901d6d4ba$dac29880$9047c980$@<a href="http://pplsweb.com">pplsweb.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Not only that, but also non-payment of utilities, required maintenance and necessary or urgent repairs.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Licensed in Florida & Washington<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by the sender.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> On Behalf Of Kary Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 4:09 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I wonder if condos with a large percentage of rented units will eventually be adversely affected. At some point the landlord may stop paying dues if the tenant is not paying dues.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Kary L. Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206 723-2148<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 10:50 AM, Rani K. Sampson wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The long-term consequences of forcing landlords to absorb large financial losses are predictable: landlords will liquidate their real estate investments (they?ll sell). Tenants will have much less housing to choose from. Rental houses will be incredibly hard to find. The void might be filled by corporate landlords building apartments or government landlords building projects.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is very bad for tenants, long term. The loss of rental housing will affect all of us.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Overcast Law Offices | Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> _____<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" mce_href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.avast.com">www.avast.com</a> <<a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" mce_href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/c5883003/attachment-0001.html" mce_href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/c5883003/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/c5883003/attachment-0001.html</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message: 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:34:18 -0800<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: "K. Garl Long" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>, Rob<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Rowley <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:rob@rowleylegal.com" href="mailto:rob@rowleylegal.com" mce_href="mailto:rob@rowleylegal.com">rob@rowleylegal.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:rob@rowleylegal.com" href="mailto:rob@rowleylegal.com" mce_href="mailto:rob@rowleylegal.com">rob@rowleylegal.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:af78841c-13e7-4bfc-bc6e-64feb2d781a6@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:af78841c-13e7-4bfc-bc6e-64feb2d781a6@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:af78841c-13e7-4bfc-bc6e-64feb2d781a6@longlaw.biz">af78841c-13e7-4bfc-bc6e-64feb2d781a6@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:af78841c-13e7-4bfc-bc6e-64feb2d781a6@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:af78841c-13e7-4bfc-bc6e-64feb2d781a6@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:af78841c-13e7-4bfc-bc6e-64feb2d781a6@longlaw.biz">af78841c-13e7-4bfc-bc6e-64feb2d781a6@longlaw.biz</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">/It is not inequality which is the real misfortune, it is dependence.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">/Voltaire again.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 11:25 AM, Rob Rowley wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> possible from one class of citizens to give to another.? Voltaire.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> *On Behalf Of *Chris B<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:59 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I just entered into an agreement to sell 4 of my 12 rental homes as a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> package.? All will be town down and replaced with McMansions. These<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> are nice homes that I am proud to own, two of which have tenants in<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> them for more than 10 years.? While all my tenants are current in<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> their rent, I no longer wish to be in the rental housing business in a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> state that is clearly trying to kill that business.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> As they say, it is ?a feature, not a bug.?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Chris Benis<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Hecker, Wakefield & Feilberg, P.S.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 321 First Avenue West, Seattle, WA? 98119<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 206.447-1900 office ? 206.447.9075 fax ? www. <a href="http://heckerwakefield.com">heckerwakefield.com</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" mce_href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" target="_blank">http://heckerwakefield.com</a><<a href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" mce_href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" target="_blank">http://heckerwakefield.com/</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This message contains information that may be CONFIDENTIAL AND<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> PRIVILEGED.? 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Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:51 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> The long-term consequences of forcing landlords to absorb large<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> financial losses are predictable: landlords will liquidate their real<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> estate investments (they?ll sell).? Tenants will have much less<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> housing to choose from.? Rental houses will be incredibly hard to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> find.? The void might be filled by corporate landlords building<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> apartments or government landlords building projects.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This is very bad for tenants, long term. The loss of rental housing<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> will affect all of us.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Rani K. Sampson*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Overcast Law Offices |Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 |(509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> *On Behalf Of *Kary Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:37 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> You're generalizing.? The moratorium protects an entire class<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> regardless of their need, at the expense of another class, regardless<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> of their need.? If it were based on economics I'd have little problem<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> with it, but it's not.? Beyond that though, I'm worried about the long<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> term adverse effects on those who actually need the protection.? The<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> moratorium may have given them a false sense of security and lead them<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> to make bad decisions.? Back when I practiced law I did primarily<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> debtor bankruptcy and the moratorium is likely causing people to make<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> decisions that no competent financial planner would ever advise them<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> to make.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Also, you can't even assume someone who rents cannot afford to own.?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> They may just not wish to own for many different reasons.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Kary L. Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 206 723-2148<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I will take the pro moratorium position.? Donning my suit of armor<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> at the same time?..<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic unequaled<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> by any health crisis in 100 years.? The moratoriums are a policy<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> protecting the most vulnerable people in the population as a whole<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> ? renters.? As a group they are either poor or old or both.? They<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> are people who can?t afford homes due to lack of wealth.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Image removed by sender. 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As far as his notion of government taking money from one class and giving to another, as a non-landlord, I see my money going to the pockets of landlords. I fund governmental benefits with my taxes. Those benefits are paid to landlords for rent. Generally, rent paid to landlords by those on government benefits is a disproportionately high percentage of their income. Voltaire would likely conclude the landlords are the ones benefitting from this governmental transfer.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Perhaps the moratorium suspends this transfer to landlords to allow my taxes to temporarily fund pandemic relief.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Andrew Hay<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hay & Swann PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">201 S. 34th St.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Tacoma, WA 98418<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net">www.washingtonlaw.net</a><<a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net/" mce_href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net/" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonlaw.net/</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.272.2400 (w)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.377.3085 (c)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENT ONLY. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND DESTROY ALL COPIES<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> [mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>] On Behalf Of K. Garl Long<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:34 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv; Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">It is not inequality which is the real misfortune, it is dependence. Voltaire again.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 11:25 AM, Rob Rowley wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to another. Voltaire.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Chris B<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:59 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I just entered into an agreement to sell 4 of my 12 rental homes as a package. All will be town down and replaced with McMansions. These are nice homes that I am proud to own, two of which have tenants in them for more than 10 years. While all my tenants are current in their rent, I no longer wish to be in the rental housing business in a state that is clearly trying to kill that business.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">As they say, it is ?a feature, not a bug.?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Chris Benis<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hecker, Wakefield & Feilberg, P.S.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">321 First Avenue West, Seattle, WA 98119<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206.447-1900 office ? 206.447.9075 fax ? www. <a href="http://heckerwakefield.com">heckerwakefield.com</a><<a href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" mce_href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" target="_blank">http://heckerwakefield.com</a><<a href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" mce_href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" target="_blank">http://heckerwakefield.com/</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This message contains information that may be CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVILEGED. 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Please contact me if you would like to discuss our preparation of an opinion that conforms to these new rules.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:51 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The long-term consequences of forcing landlords to absorb large financial losses are predictable: landlords will liquidate their real estate investments (they?ll sell). Tenants will have much less housing to choose from. Rental houses will be incredibly hard to find. The void might be filled by corporate landlords building apartments or government landlords building projects.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is very bad for tenants, long term. The loss of rental housing will affect all of us.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Overcast Law Offices | Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Kary Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:37 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">You're generalizing. The moratorium protects an entire class regardless of their need, at the expense of another class, regardless of their need. If it were based on economics I'd have little problem with it, but it's not. Beyond that though, I'm worried about the long term adverse effects on those who actually need the protection. The moratorium may have given them a false sense of security and lead them to make bad decisions. Back when I practiced law I did primarily debtor bankruptcy and the moratorium is likely causing people to make decisions that no competent financial planner would ever advise them to make.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Also, you can't even assume someone who rents cannot afford to own. They may just not wish to own for many different reasons.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Kary L. Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206 723-2148<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I will take the pro moratorium position. Donning my suit of armor at the same time?..<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic unequaled by any health crisis in 100 years. The moratoriums are a policy protecting the most vulnerable people in the population as a whole ? renters. As a group they are either poor or old or both. They are people who can?t afford homes due to lack of wealth.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">________________________________<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[Image removed by sender. 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Garl Long" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:5f273c5b-df4d-8a0c-49f7-4e446c524ab1@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:5f273c5b-df4d-8a0c-49f7-4e446c524ab1@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:5f273c5b-df4d-8a0c-49f7-4e446c524ab1@longlaw.biz">5f273c5b-df4d-8a0c-49f7-4e446c524ab1@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:5f273c5b-df4d-8a0c-49f7-4e446c524ab1@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:5f273c5b-df4d-8a0c-49f7-4e446c524ab1@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:5f273c5b-df4d-8a0c-49f7-4e446c524ab1@longlaw.biz">5f273c5b-df4d-8a0c-49f7-4e446c524ab1@longlaw.biz</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If you choose to put money that you have earned into the pocket of the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">owner of a dwelling, in exchange for the privilege of living there, it<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">is called a contract.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If the government expropriates the dwelling from the owner so that you<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">can live there without paying, it is theft. You may recall that the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Intolerable Acts included such expropriation of dwellings.? This is what<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">our founders fought against, and which we now meekly accept.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">KGL<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 01:55 PM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Voltaire again ? As far as his notion of government taking money from<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> one class and giving to another, as a non-landlord, I see my money<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> going to ?the pockets of landlords.? I fund governmental benefits with<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> my taxes.? Those benefits are paid to landlords for rent.? Generally,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> rent paid to landlords by those on government benefits is a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> disproportionately high percentage of their income. Voltaire would<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> likely conclude the landlords are the ones benefitting from this<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> governmental transfer.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Perhaps the moratorium suspends this transfer to landlords to allow my<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> taxes to temporarily fund pandemic relief.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Andrew Hay*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Hay & Swann PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 201 S. 34^th St.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Tacoma, WA 98418<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> /<a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net">www.washingtonlaw.net</a> <<a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net/" mce_href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net/" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonlaw.net/</a>>/<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> /<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>>/<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 253.272.2400 (w)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 253.377.3085 (c)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> DESIGNATED RECIPIENT ONLY.? IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND DESTROY ALL COPIES<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:*<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> [mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>] *On Behalf Of *K. Garl Long<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:34 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv; Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> /It is not inequality which is the real misfortune, it is dependence.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> /Voltaire again.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> On 12/17/2020 11:25 AM, Rob Rowley wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> as possible from one class of citizens to give to another.? Voltaire.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> *On Behalf Of *Chris B<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:59 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I just entered into an agreement to sell 4 of my 12 rental homes<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> as a package.? All will be town down and replaced with McMansions.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> These are nice homes that I am proud to own, two of which have<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> tenants in them for more than 10 years.? While all my tenants are<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> current in their rent, I no longer wish to be in the rental<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> housing business in a state that is clearly trying to kill that<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> business.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> As they say, it is ?a feature, not a bug.?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Chris Benis<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Hecker, Wakefield & Feilberg, P.S.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 321 First Avenue West, Seattle, WA? 98119<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 206.447-1900 office ? 206.447.9075 fax ? www. <a href="http://heckerwakefield.com">heckerwakefield.com</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" mce_href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" target="_blank">http://heckerwakefield.com</a><<a href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" mce_href="http://heckerwakefield.com/" target="_blank">http://heckerwakefield.com/</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This message contains information that may be CONFIDENTIAL AND<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> PRIVILEGED.? 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Tenants will have much<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> less housing to choose from.? Rental houses will be incredibly<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> hard to find.? The void might be filled by corporate landlords<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> building apartments or government landlords building projects.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This is very bad for tenants, long term.? The loss of rental<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> housing will affect all of us.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Rani K. Sampson*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Overcast Law Offices | Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> *On Behalf Of *Kary<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:37 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> You're generalizing.? The moratorium protects an entire class<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> regardless of their need, at the expense of another class,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> regardless of their need.? If it were based on economics I'd have<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> little problem with it, but it's not. Beyond that though, I'm<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> worried about the long term adverse effects on those who actually<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> need the protection.? The moratorium may have given them a false<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> sense of security and lead them to make bad decisions.? Back when<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I practiced law I did primarily debtor bankruptcy and the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> moratorium is likely causing people to make decisions that no<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> competent financial planner would ever advise them to make.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Also, you can't even assume someone who rents cannot afford to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> own.? They may just not wish to own for many different reasons.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Kary L. Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 206 723-2148<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I will take the pro moratorium position.? Donning my suit of<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> armor at the same time?..<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> unequaled by any health crisis in 100 years.? The moratoriums<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> are a policy protecting the most vulnerable people in the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> population as a whole ? renters.? As a group they are either<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> poor or old or both.? They are people who can?t afford homes<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> due to lack of wealth.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Image removed by sender. 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<div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>, "Adrienne<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Keith Wills <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:akwills@willslawfirm.com" href="mailto:akwills@willslawfirm.com" mce_href="mailto:akwills@willslawfirm.com">akwills@willslawfirm.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:akwills@willslawfirm.com" href="mailto:akwills@willslawfirm.com" mce_href="mailto:akwills@willslawfirm.com">akwills@willslawfirm.com</a>>>" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:adr-section@list.wsba.org" href="mailto:adr-section@list.wsba.org" mce_href="mailto:adr-section@list.wsba.org">adr-section@list.wsba.org</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:adr-section@list.wsba.org" href="mailto:adr-section@list.wsba.org" mce_href="mailto:adr-section@list.wsba.org">adr-section@list.wsba.org</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: [WSBARP] January 6, 2021 12:00pm PST Open Forum on Pending<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Eviction Legislation<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:CDDCA0C2-BE63-47C1-8274-9967366E236F@rinconres.org" href="mailto:CDDCA0C2-BE63-47C1-8274-9967366E236F@rinconres.org" mce_href="mailto:CDDCA0C2-BE63-47C1-8274-9967366E236F@rinconres.org">CDDCA0C2-BE63-47C1-8274-9967366E236F@rinconres.org</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:CDDCA0C2-BE63-47C1-8274-9967366E236F@rinconres.org" href="mailto:CDDCA0C2-BE63-47C1-8274-9967366E236F@rinconres.org" mce_href="mailto:CDDCA0C2-BE63-47C1-8274-9967366E236F@rinconres.org">CDDCA0C2-BE63-47C1-8274-9967366E236F@rinconres.org</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The ADR Section executive committee will be hosting an open forum for members of the RPPT and ADR sections to discuss issues of concern about eviction legislation under review at this time. There are many issues to raise with policy makers that call for an organized effort among our respective memberships.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The forum will take place at 1200 PST Wednesday January 6 and will accommodate up to 300 participants. In addition to identifying major issues for discussion, we will plan additional forums at different times.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Register for the meeting and get Zoom links here: <a href="https://zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwrdOivrj8tHtUdh4DB8pAQ4gd6cmvSWxxz" mce_href="https://zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwrdOivrj8tHtUdh4DB8pAQ4gd6cmvSWxxz" target="_blank">https://zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwrdOivrj8tHtUdh4DB8pAQ4gd6cmvSWxxz </a><<a href="https://zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwrdOivrj8tHtUdh4DB8pAQ4gd6cmvSWxxz" mce_href="https://zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwrdOivrj8tHtUdh4DB8pAQ4gd6cmvSWxxz" target="_blank">https://zoom.us/meeting/register/tJwrdOivrj8tHtUdh4DB8pAQ4gd6cmvSWxxz</a>> <><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Roger A. 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If you have received this email in error, please notify me immediately by reply email, delete this email, and do not disclose its contents to anyone.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/155dc7ee/attachment-0001.html" mce_href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/155dc7ee/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/155dc7ee/attachment-0001.html</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message: 10<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 22:35:16 +0000<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: Eric Nelsen <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" mce_href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" mce_href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:098D0346993E6A48B0D5F184C0AB002E6B4829@SBS2011.sayrelawoffices.local" href="mailto:098D0346993E6A48B0D5F184C0AB002E6B4829@SBS2011.sayrelawoffices.local" mce_href="mailto:098D0346993E6A48B0D5F184C0AB002E6B4829@SBS2011.sayrelawoffices.local">098D0346993E6A48B0D5F184C0AB002E6B4829@SBS2011.sayrelawoffices.local</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:098D0346993E6A48B0D5F184C0AB002E6B4829@SBS2011.sayrelawoffices.local" href="mailto:098D0346993E6A48B0D5F184C0AB002E6B4829@SBS2011.sayrelawoffices.local" mce_href="mailto:098D0346993E6A48B0D5F184C0AB002E6B4829@SBS2011.sayrelawoffices.local">098D0346993E6A48B0D5F184C0AB002E6B4829@SBS2011.sayrelawoffices.local</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">We are all generalizing, whether arguing in favor of tenants or landlords. Policy decisions are generally made by generalizations, after all. The devil is always in the details.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Little of the current situation is a policy outcome I want or agree with; the moratorium was imposed hastily in an emergency that has now consumed our country for almost a year, with every tool of governance forced to run with one foot in a bucket because of gross incompetence and malicious indifference at the federal level coupled with insufficient local resources. It never should have taken this long, too many people have died, too many are going to die still, and governmental capacity to act is still badly crippled. Governor Inslee was given a surgical problem, then blindfolded and handed a sledgehammer and told to take care of it. So we got a sledgehammer solution for a surgical problem.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I do agree that there should be a policy-level allocation of relief to mom-and-pop landlords to help ease the economic burden they have taken on. Personally, I would advocate for limiting relief to landlords who are individuals and closely-held corporate entities (say, max 4 owners of the entity, with additional rules to prevent gaming this limit by having interlocking ownership or control), who own no more than six rental units total, and whose rental revenue amounts to 50% or more of their total personal income. That helps individual small-time landlords that have been front and center of the argument for landlord relief, and avoids benefitting the corporations who typically hoover up the vast majority of ?small business? relief. I would also condition relief on release of tenant debt in some fashion. (Obviously those limitations are off the top of my head and could be tweaked.) The idea is, if you?re a bigger landlord than the described threshold, then you?re really an in!<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">vestor and you don?t get a bailout.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The ?moral hazard? argument applies both ways. Personally I worry about the constant coddling of property by our legal system, to the point where investors of all kinds, real estate, stock, and whatever, have had literally decades to develop a false sense of security by being constantly bailed out by the government from the natural consequences of investor-class and banker-class recklessness. And just now, there are critical policy reasons to prioritize human life and shelter (that is, life and liberty interests) over profits (property). So that false sense of security is getting zinged and property owners are outraged, forgetting that for themselves, their life and liberty interests are basically already well-provided for. No one owning a rental property is going without a roof over their own head.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Also, a money/contract relationship is not the same as a social human relationship. There is no moral obligation to pay money, because morality arises from social relationships, and money is not that?or at least that?s how we?ve set it up over the centuries. If a landlord?s sole ?relationship? to a tenant is based on the rent derived from providing them shelter, then the relationship is about money. Don?t expect a tenant to make an allocation of their resources that benefits the landlord more than they absolutely must. That is, after all, the basis of all ?laissez faire? and ?invisible hand? preaching: everybody is a self-interested money-calculator and morality based on non-monetary factors is irrelevant. I personally think laissez-faire and the invisible hand is garbage, but if property-owners want to talk in those terms, then they shouldn?t squawk when someone else behaves the same way.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I have pushed back before about the righteous tone on the listserv, about tenants spending their money on goodies and giving the landlord the finger. But if I have $1000 to spend and the choice is between taking care of myself or paying money to a landlord when the law isn?t going to force me to, and my relationship to the landlord is based purely on money, then hell yes, I?m going to spend it on myself. And please note, that is the proper response under invisible hand theories: do the self-interested thing and it will all balance out: the landlord is hurt but Netflix benefits.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">But if the landlord is my friend, or has some other social claim to my loyalty, I?m far more likely to pay some rent because I will feel a moral obligation. Contrariwise, if the landlord is my friend, the landlord is far more likely to understand and sympathize if I am genuinely struggling financially, and we have a social connection that opens the possibility of discussing what each of us needs to survive and finding a cooperative solution that gets us through the crisis together.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sincerely,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Eric<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Eric C. Nelsen<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">1417 31st Ave South<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Seattle WA 98144-3909<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206-625-0092<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" mce_href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" mce_href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" mce_href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" mce_href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Covid-19 Update - All attorneys are working remotely during regular business hours and are available via email and by phone. 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Garl Long" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: 12/17/20 2:15 PM (GMT-08:00)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If you choose to put money that you have earned into the pocket of the owner of a dwelling, in exchange for the privilege of living there, it is called a contract.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If the government expropriates the dwelling from the owner so that you can live there without paying, it is theft. You may recall that the Intolerable Acts included such expropriation of dwellings. This is what our founders fought against, and which we now meekly accept.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">KGL<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 01:55 PM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Voltaire again ? As far as his notion of government taking money from one class and giving to another, as a non-landlord, I see my money going to the pockets of landlords. I fund governmental benefits with my taxes. Those benefits are paid to landlords for rent. Generally, rent paid to landlords by those on government benefits is a disproportionately high percentage of their income. Voltaire would likely conclude the landlords are the ones benefitting from this governmental transfer.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Perhaps the moratorium suspends this transfer to landlords to allow my taxes to temporarily fund pandemic relief.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Andrew Hay<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hay & Swann PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">201 S. 34th St.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Tacoma, WA 98418<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net">www.washingtonlaw.net</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.272.2400 (w)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.377.3085 (c)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENT ONLY. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND DESTROY ALL COPIES<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> [mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>] On Behalf Of K. Garl Long<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:34 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv; Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">It is not inequality which is the real misfortune, it is dependence. Voltaire again.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 11:25 AM, Rob Rowley wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to another. Voltaire.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Chris B<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:59 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I just entered into an agreement to sell 4 of my 12 rental homes as a package. All will be town down and replaced with McMansions. These are nice homes that I am proud to own, two of which have tenants in them for more than 10 years. While all my tenants are current in their rent, I no longer wish to be in the rental housing business in a state that is clearly trying to kill that business.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">As they say, it is ?a feature, not a bug.?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Chris Benis<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hecker, Wakefield & Feilberg, P.S.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">321 First Avenue West, Seattle, WA 98119<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206.447-1900 office ? 206.447.9075 fax ? www. <a href="http://heckerwakefield.com">heckerwakefield.com</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This message contains information that may be CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVILEGED. 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Please contact me if you would like to discuss our preparation of an opinion that conforms to these new rules.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:51 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The long-term consequences of forcing landlords to absorb large financial losses are predictable: landlords will liquidate their real estate investments (they?ll sell). Tenants will have much less housing to choose from. Rental houses will be incredibly hard to find. The void might be filled by corporate landlords building apartments or government landlords building projects.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is very bad for tenants, long term. The loss of rental housing will affect all of us.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Overcast Law Offices | Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Kary Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:37 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">You're generalizing. The moratorium protects an entire class regardless of their need, at the expense of another class, regardless of their need. If it were based on economics I'd have little problem with it, but it's not. Beyond that though, I'm worried about the long term adverse effects on those who actually need the protection. The moratorium may have given them a false sense of security and lead them to make bad decisions. Back when I practiced law I did primarily debtor bankruptcy and the moratorium is likely causing people to make decisions that no competent financial planner would ever advise them to make.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Also, you can't even assume someone who rents cannot afford to own. They may just not wish to own for many different reasons.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Kary L. Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206 723-2148<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I will take the pro moratorium position. Donning my suit of armor at the same time?..<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic unequaled by any health crisis in 100 years. The moratoriums are a policy protecting the most vulnerable people in the population as a whole ? renters. As a group they are either poor or old or both. They are people who can?t afford homes due to lack of wealth.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">________________________________<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[Image removed by sender. 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href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088103D62586DB9EE74F5DDC0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088103D62586DB9EE74F5DDC0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com" mce_href="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088103D62586DB9EE74F5DDC0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com">MWHPR19MB1088103D62586DB9EE74F5DDC0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088103D62586DB9EE74F5DDC0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088103D62586DB9EE74F5DDC0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com" mce_href="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088103D62586DB9EE74F5DDC0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com">MWHPR19MB1088103D62586DB9EE74F5DDC0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">We live in a society that accepts the benevolence of monetary transfers from the fortunate to the less fortunate, mostly in the form of unequal taxation. It seems to me that Inslee's goal is not such a transfer but rather avoidance of a humanitarian crisis caused by the economic impacts of the pandemic. The goal is not to benefit tenants financially by burdening landlords financially, or at least it shouldn't be. The goal is to prevent homelessness.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The current proclamation, and the proposed statute, extend well beyond this goal. This is the problem.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Steve<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> On Behalf Of Christy M<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 2:41 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I, for one, do not meekly accept; I vehemently support.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">-------- Original message --------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: "K. Garl Long" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: 12/17/20 2:15 PM (GMT-08:00)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If you choose to put money that you have earned into the pocket of the owner of a dwelling, in exchange for the privilege of living there, it is called a contract.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If the government expropriates the dwelling from the owner so that you can live there without paying, it is theft. You may recall that the Intolerable Acts included such expropriation of dwellings. This is what our founders fought against, and which we now meekly accept.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">KGL<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 01:55 PM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Voltaire again ... As far as his notion of government taking money from one class and giving to another, as a non-landlord, I see my money going to the pockets of landlords. I fund governmental benefits with my taxes. Those benefits are paid to landlords for rent. Generally, rent paid to landlords by those on government benefits is a disproportionately high percentage of their income. Voltaire would likely conclude the landlords are the ones benefitting from this governmental transfer.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Perhaps the moratorium suspends this transfer to landlords to allow my taxes to temporarily fund pandemic relief.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Andrew Hay<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hay & Swann PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">201 S. 34th St.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Tacoma, WA 98418<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net">www.washingtonlaw.net</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.272.2400 (w)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.377.3085 (c)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENT ONLY. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND DESTROY ALL COPIES<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> [mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>] On Behalf Of K. Garl Long<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:34 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv; Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">It is not inequality which is the real misfortune, it is dependence. Voltaire again.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 11:25 AM, Rob Rowley wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to another. Voltaire.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Chris B<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:59 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I just entered into an agreement to sell 4 of my 12 rental homes as a package. All will be town down and replaced with McMansions. These are nice homes that I am proud to own, two of which have tenants in them for more than 10 years. While all my tenants are current in their rent, I no longer wish to be in the rental housing business in a state that is clearly trying to kill that business.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">As they say, it is "a feature, not a bug."<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Chris Benis<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hecker, Wakefield & Feilberg, P.S.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">321 First Avenue West, Seattle, WA 98119<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206.447-1900 office - 206.447.9075 fax - www. <a href="http://heckerwakefield.com">heckerwakefield.com</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This message contains information that may be CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVILEGED. 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Please contact me if you would like to discuss our preparation of an opinion that conforms to these new rules.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:51 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The long-term consequences of forcing landlords to absorb large financial losses are predictable: landlords will liquidate their real estate investments (they'll sell). Tenants will have much less housing to choose from. Rental houses will be incredibly hard to find. The void might be filled by corporate landlords building apartments or government landlords building projects.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is very bad for tenants, long term. The loss of rental housing will affect all of us.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Overcast Law Offices | Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Kary Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:37 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">You're generalizing. The moratorium protects an entire class regardless of their need, at the expense of another class, regardless of their need. If it were based on economics I'd have little problem with it, but it's not. Beyond that though, I'm worried about the long term adverse effects on those who actually need the protection. The moratorium may have given them a false sense of security and lead them to make bad decisions. Back when I practiced law I did primarily debtor bankruptcy and the moratorium is likely causing people to make decisions that no competent financial planner would ever advise them to make.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Also, you can't even assume someone who rents cannot afford to own. They may just not wish to own for many different reasons.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Kary L. Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206 723-2148<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I will take the pro moratorium position. Donning my suit of armor at the same time.....<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic unequaled by any health crisis in 100 years. The moratoriums are a policy protecting the most vulnerable people in the population as a whole - renters. As a group they are either poor or old or both. They are people who can't afford homes due to lack of wealth.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">________________________________<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[Image removed by sender. 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Garl Long" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>, Eric<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Nelsen <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" mce_href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" mce_href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:36af8523-f24a-7cc1-8d62-189562404896@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:36af8523-f24a-7cc1-8d62-189562404896@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:36af8523-f24a-7cc1-8d62-189562404896@longlaw.biz">36af8523-f24a-7cc1-8d62-189562404896@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:36af8523-f24a-7cc1-8d62-189562404896@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:36af8523-f24a-7cc1-8d62-189562404896@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:36af8523-f24a-7cc1-8d62-189562404896@longlaw.biz">36af8523-f24a-7cc1-8d62-189562404896@longlaw.biz</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The government should not favor one group or another. It should supply a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">secure physical environment and a consistent and unbiased set of rules.?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Property owners are not asking for more government, or for government<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">funds, they just want government to stop making the problem worse.? As<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">you suggest in your last paragraph, reasonable owners and responsible<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">tenants can work out issues between them; without government money or<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">mandates.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">KGL<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 02:35 PM, Eric Nelsen wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> We are all generalizing, whether arguing in favor of tenants or<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> landlords. Policy decisions are generally made by generalizations,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> after all. The devil is always in the details.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Little of the current situation is a policy outcome I want or agree<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> with; the moratorium was imposed hastily in an emergency that has now<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> consumed our country for almost a year, with every tool of governance<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> forced to run with one foot in a bucket because of gross incompetence<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> and malicious indifference at the federal level coupled with<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> insufficient local resources. It never should have taken this long,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> too many people have died, too many are going to die still, and<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> governmental capacity to act is still badly crippled. Governor Inslee<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> was given a surgical problem, then blindfolded and handed a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> sledgehammer and told to take care of it. So we got a sledgehammer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> solution for a surgical problem.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I do agree that there should be a policy-level allocation of relief to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> mom-and-pop landlords to help ease the economic burden they have taken<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> on. Personally, I would advocate for limiting relief to landlords who<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> are individuals and closely-held corporate entities (say, max 4 owners<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> of the entity, with additional rules to prevent gaming this limit by<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> having interlocking ownership or control), who own no more than six<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> rental units total, and whose rental revenue amounts to 50% or more of<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> their total personal income. That helps individual small-time<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> landlords that have been front and center of the argument for landlord<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> relief, and avoids benefitting the corporations who typically hoover<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> up the vast majority of ?small business? relief. I would also<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> condition relief on release of tenant debt in some fashion. (Obviously<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> those limitations are off the top of my head and could be tweaked.)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> The idea is, if you?re a bigger landlord than the described threshold,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> then you?re really an investor and you don?t get a bailout.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> The ?moral hazard? argument applies both ways. Personally I worry<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> about the constant coddling of property by our legal system, to the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> point where investors of all kinds, real estate, stock, and whatever,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> have had literally /decades/ to develop a false sense of security by<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> being constantly bailed out by the government from the natural<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> consequences of investor-class and banker-class recklessness. And just<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> now, there are critical policy reasons to prioritize human life and<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> shelter (that is, life and liberty interests) over profits (property).<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> So that false sense of security is getting zinged and property owners<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> are outraged, forgetting that for themselves, their life and liberty<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> interests are basically already well-provided for. No one owning a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> rental property is going without a roof over their own head.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Also, a money/contract relationship is not the same as a social human<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> relationship. There is no /moral/ obligation to pay money, because<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> morality arises from social relationships, and money is not that?or at<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> least that?s how we?ve set it up over the centuries. If a landlord?s<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> sole ?relationship? to a tenant is based on the rent derived from<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> providing them shelter, then the relationship is about money. Don?t<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> expect a tenant to make an allocation of their resources that benefits<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> the landlord more than they absolutely must. That is, after all, the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> basis of all ?laissez faire? and ?invisible hand? preaching: everybody<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> is a self-interested money-calculator and morality based on<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> non-monetary factors is irrelevant. I personally think laissez-faire<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> and the invisible hand is garbage, but if property-owners want to talk<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> in those terms, then they shouldn?t squawk when someone else behaves<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> the same way.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I have pushed back before about the righteous tone on the listserv,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> about tenants spending their money on goodies and giving the landlord<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> the finger. But if I have $1000 to spend and the choice is between<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> taking care of myself or paying money to a landlord when the law isn?t<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> going to force me to, and my relationship to the landlord is based<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> purely on money, then hell yes, I?m going to spend it on myself. And<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> please note, that is the /proper/ response under invisible hand<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> theories: do the self-interested thing and it will all balance out:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> the landlord is hurt but Netflix benefits.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> But if the landlord is my friend, or has some other /social/ claim to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> my loyalty, I?m far more likely to pay some rent because I will feel a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> moral obligation. Contrariwise, if the landlord is my friend, the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> landlord is far more likely to understand and sympathize if I am<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> genuinely struggling financially, and we have a social connection that<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> opens the possibility of discussing what each of us needs to survive<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> and finding a cooperative solution that gets us through the crisis<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> /together/.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Sincerely,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Eric<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Eric C. 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No doubt some of the complaining<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">landlords have little to complain about.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The tenant who is behind on the rent still owes the rent. The tenant who<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">is behind on his rent is only delaying the inevitable. Unless I am missing<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">something, I would advise my clients to pay their rent.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Marvin Benson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:53 AM K. Garl Long <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>> wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> So, all renters are pour and exploited, and all owners are rich greedy<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> exploiters. Like the renter who told me how he appreciated renting my<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> asset; knowing the market rental rate resulted in an extremely low rate of<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> return on my fixed asset. Or the owner facing the failure of his business,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> and loss of his own home, because he is required to pay the housing costs<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> of his tenants.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> The seizure of private assets from free market "exploiters" to fund<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> government social policy always increases the power of government, and<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> diminishes the liberty of citizens; it unavoidably foments societal<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> disintegration. Small rental property owners, the ones most flexible with,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> and appreciative of, their tenants, are leaving the market as quickly as<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> they can. Tenants will be left to the true exploiters, government, and<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> corporate tenements.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> K. Garl Long<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I will take the pro moratorium position. Donning my suit of armor at the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> same time?..<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic unequaled by any<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> health crisis in 100 years. The moratoriums are a policy protecting the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> most vulnerable people in the population as a whole ? renters. As a group<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> they are either poor or old or both. They are people who can?t afford<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> homes due to lack of wealth.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> There may be a limited number of seeming injustices to landlords caused by<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> the moratorium, but the harm to vast numbers of renters who typically live<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> paycheck to paycheck ? or social security check to social security check ?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> would be much greater.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This graph shows the wealth disparity between those who own homes and<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> those who don?t.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> The disparity between corporate landlords and renters would be even more<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> ridiculously imbalanced. In a time of crisis, the moratorium policy<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> appropriately shifts burdens to those who can better afford it to protect<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> the overall stability of the state and the nation.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Andrew Hay*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Hay & Swann PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 201 S. 34th St.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Tacoma, WA 98418<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *<a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net">www.washingtonlaw.net</a> <<a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net/" mce_href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net/" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonlaw.net/</a>>*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>>*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 253.272.2400 (w)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 253.377.3085 (c)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE DESIGNATED<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> RECIPIENT ONLY. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND DESTROY ALL COPIES<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> [<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>] *On Behalf Of *Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:48 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Washington Landlord Association says that it ?has become a Plaintiff in a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> state lawsuit to stop the madness as well as supporting a Federal lawsuit<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> financially with the same goal.? WLA?s Executive Director is Everett<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> attorney, Rob Trickler.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> In the meantime, proposed tenant-protections laws for next session can be<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> seen here:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Eviction Reform - Landlord Tenant Protections - Draft - SUMMARY*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=0016xBNrvCGpuqtxj-u0QHd1WcIK79HR0K2nSIcHW4Lhy608EqHJczWUFQciVgluXswrmiFHmIHGoaHvh4lwW2c_gc6kHMx9FZEsnlgjQ7Lt2XWavKBV8bu93YnWEnYeDQjaN0XV90_N3ESQJFK_OQQj8Fhi-pFd0CM2oco7QBhc-VTDqOwr3w8NnmhZZy2Z-PPeETx8qIaQaYn5WDBf4iibczeJYx4eQn9qOL1bn429Kk=&c=ibxhavcAX8moKCW_wWGf2myqQgcKPwHVPy2f9DbCcqZKGKwYYUOUhg==&ch=VptldhPJG85Uqv6l5MYzzsb9g1H7Oq1tIl7UXoIoN2CmsegeYA1yBg==" mce_href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=0016xBNrvCGpuqtxj-u0QHd1WcIK79HR0K2nSIcHW4Lhy608EqHJczWUFQciVgluXswrmiFHmIHGoaHvh4lwW2c_gc6kHMx9FZEsnlgjQ7Lt2XWavKBV8bu93YnWEnYeDQjaN0XV90_N3ESQJFK_OQQj8Fhi-pFd0CM2oco7QBhc-VTDqOwr3w8NnmhZZy2Z-PPeETx8qIaQaYn5WDBf4iibczeJYx4eQn9qOL1bn429Kk=&c=ibxhavcAX8moKCW_wWGf2myqQgcKPwHVPy2f9DbCcqZKGKwYYUOUhg==&ch=VptldhPJG85Uqv6l5MYzzsb9g1H7Oq1tIl7UXoIoN2CmsegeYA1yBg==" target="_blank">http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=0016xBNrvCGpuqtxj-u0QHd1WcIK79HR0K2nSIcHW4Lhy608EqHJczWUFQciVgluXswrmiFHmIHGoaHvh4lwW2c_gc6kHMx9FZEsnlgjQ7Lt2XWavKBV8bu93YnWEnYeDQjaN0XV90_N3ESQJFK_OQQj8Fhi-pFd0CM2oco7QBhc-VTDqOwr3w8NnmhZZy2Z-PPeETx8qIaQaYn5WDBf4iibczeJYx4eQn9qOL1bn429Kk=&c=ibxhavcAX8moKCW_wWGf2myqQgcKPwHVPy2f9DbCcqZKGKwYYUOUhg==&ch=VptldhPJG85Uqv6l5MYzzsb9g1H7Oq1tIl7UXoIoN2CmsegeYA1yBg==</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Eviction Reform - Landlord Tenant Protections - Stakeholder Draft - FULL<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> BILL*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=0016xBNrvCGpuqtxj-u0QHd1WcIK79HR0K2nSIcHW4Lhy608EqHJczWUFQciVgluXswmZm2QeOkLsGs-3fnr8wKT8fiCIWNqwkloeJDbMXGGCehK4iOHICy2mRzTJmTdR0QbAd7hPYsWjkL3pHMHzRApeTgPao6KEVcb5v2PpaLhWMt3HHLyKH5tVMvJbeh3dNjaeKv2Qpl2cd7S2S0WjAnmFFInndctYpxbevId-tr024=&c=ibxhavcAX8moKCW_wWGf2myqQgcKPwHVPy2f9DbCcqZKGKwYYUOUhg==&ch=VptldhPJG85Uqv6l5MYzzsb9g1H7Oq1tIl7UXoIoN2CmsegeYA1yBg==" mce_href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=0016xBNrvCGpuqtxj-u0QHd1WcIK79HR0K2nSIcHW4Lhy608EqHJczWUFQciVgluXswmZm2QeOkLsGs-3fnr8wKT8fiCIWNqwkloeJDbMXGGCehK4iOHICy2mRzTJmTdR0QbAd7hPYsWjkL3pHMHzRApeTgPao6KEVcb5v2PpaLhWMt3HHLyKH5tVMvJbeh3dNjaeKv2Qpl2cd7S2S0WjAnmFFInndctYpxbevId-tr024=&c=ibxhavcAX8moKCW_wWGf2myqQgcKPwHVPy2f9DbCcqZKGKwYYUOUhg==&ch=VptldhPJG85Uqv6l5MYzzsb9g1H7Oq1tIl7UXoIoN2CmsegeYA1yBg==" target="_blank">http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=0016xBNrvCGpuqtxj-u0QHd1WcIK79HR0K2nSIcHW4Lhy608EqHJczWUFQciVgluXswmZm2QeOkLsGs-3fnr8wKT8fiCIWNqwkloeJDbMXGGCehK4iOHICy2mRzTJmTdR0QbAd7hPYsWjkL3pHMHzRApeTgPao6KEVcb5v2PpaLhWMt3HHLyKH5tVMvJbeh3dNjaeKv2Qpl2cd7S2S0WjAnmFFInndctYpxbevId-tr024=&c=ibxhavcAX8moKCW_wWGf2myqQgcKPwHVPy2f9DbCcqZKGKwYYUOUhg==&ch=VptldhPJG85Uqv6l5MYzzsb9g1H7Oq1tIl7UXoIoN2CmsegeYA1yBg==</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Rani K. Sampson*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Overcast Law Offices | Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> *On<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Behalf Of *Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:15 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> As a lowly dirt attorney a little bit beyond my pay grade.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> My observation is that regulatory taking and substantive due process for<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> landlords is largely dead in Washington state (unless you are a tenant)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> after the Yim I and Yim II (2019) cases. There was an excellent article<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> about those cases in the RPPT newsletter.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Just wait till rent control (aka ?housing stability?) steamrolls through<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> not this session but probably the following legislative session.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> What say wiser counsel?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> *On Behalf Of *Jennifer L White<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:53 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Rob,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I?m curious if any of you LL/T gurus and/or real property litigators are<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> considering filing some kind of action or class action on a constitutional<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> takings basis? It seems to me that the government has turned private<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> landlords into unwilling purveyors of public housing. All of these<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> regulations/laws were hastily conceived and handed down by fiat. The result<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> has been a tremendous and concentrated loss to private property owners.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Perhaps it has to play out further? Have to wait to quantify the exact loss<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> when the moratoriums end and you work through getting them out under all of<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> these onerous ?drag it out? policies benefiting only tenants? We all know<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> that deadbeat tenants are never going to pay up even a tiny fraction of<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> what they owe. That is but a legal illusion of justice for the property<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> owners.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Jennifer L. White, Esq.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" mce_href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> PO Box 11037<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Yakima, WA 98909<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 509.225.9813<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> *On Behalf Of *Rowley, Rob<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:49 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> As I tell my landlord clients we lawyers don't like guaranteeing anything<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> but there is one thing I will guarantee is that the Governor will extend<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> the moratorium sometime into 2021.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Also, I suspect that Pres. Biden (once in office) will also extend the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> CDC moratorium which is scheduled to lapse on December 31 which is only for<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> nonpayment of rent.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> You also have to look at your local county to see if they are part of the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Eviction Resolution Program. Spokane County where I am based out of is a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> part of the ERP and eventually once the moratorium is lifted we have to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> participate in the program.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.EvictionResolutionProgram" mce_href="http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.EvictionResolutionProgram" target="_blank">http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.EvictionResolutionProgram</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Also, the upcoming legislative session has a number of bills which will be<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> filed which will essentially make it near impossible to evict a for rent<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> (or anything) anytime soon (month to month goes away for a while). Who<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> knows what actually will pass as law is a different question. Two things<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> that you never want to see being made is sausage and law.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Summary:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <a href="https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf" mce_href="https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf" target="_blank">https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> If I'm a betting man I would say the Legislature will pass some very<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> tenant friendly provisions tied to the governor lifting the moratorium. In<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> other words, let the Legislature take the flak from those unpaid landlords.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Interesting times we live in.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Spokane<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:32 PM Sangeeta Saigal <<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" mce_href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a>>> wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Hello Landlord Gurus,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I understand that there is a moratorium against evictions until December 31<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> st.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> According to how I understand the proclamation this moratorium applies to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> tenants who have lost their jobs or source of income related to Covid.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Question:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> If a residential tenant has not lost their source of income ie. 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"K. Garl Long" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>, Stephen<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Brandli <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:88ff2879-0590-1b30-7609-cd8906edad61@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:88ff2879-0590-1b30-7609-cd8906edad61@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:88ff2879-0590-1b30-7609-cd8906edad61@longlaw.biz">88ff2879-0590-1b30-7609-cd8906edad61@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:88ff2879-0590-1b30-7609-cd8906edad61@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:88ff2879-0590-1b30-7609-cd8906edad61@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:88ff2879-0590-1b30-7609-cd8906edad61@longlaw.biz">88ff2879-0590-1b30-7609-cd8906edad61@longlaw.biz</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The cost of all of this "good" social policy is immediately born by<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">owners that did not cause the problem, and ultimately by tenants who<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">cannot prevent the problem.? As others have stressed, the future is one<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">of large entity landlords, and either exorbitant rents, or cramped<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">undesirable housing re: East Berlin.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">KGL<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 02:59 PM, Stephen Brandli wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> We live in a society that accepts the benevolence of monetary<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> transfers from the fortunate to the less fortunate, mostly in the form<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> of unequal taxation.? It seems to me that Inslee?s goal is not such a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> transfer but rather avoidance of a humanitarian crisis caused by the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> economic impacts of the pandemic.? The goal is not to benefit tenants<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> financially by burdening landlords financially, or at least it<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> shouldn?t be.? The goal is to prevent homelessness.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> The current proclamation, and the proposed statute, extend well beyond<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> this goal.? This is the problem.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Steve<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:*<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> *On Behalf Of *Christy M<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 2:41 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I, for one, do not meekly accept; I vehemently support.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> -------- Original message --------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> From: "K. Garl Long" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Date: 12/17/20 2:15 PM (GMT-08:00)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> If you choose to put money that you have earned into the pocket of the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> owner of a dwelling, in exchange for the privilege of living there, it<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> is called a contract.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> If the government expropriates the dwelling from the owner so that you<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> can live there without paying, it is theft. You may recall that the<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Intolerable Acts included such expropriation of dwellings.? This is<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> what our founders fought against, and which we now meekly accept.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> KGL<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> On 12/17/2020 01:55 PM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Voltaire again ? As far as his notion of government taking money<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> from one class and giving to another, as a non-landlord, I see my<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> money going to ?the pockets of landlords.? I fund governmental<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> benefits with my taxes.? Those benefits are paid to landlords for<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> rent.? Generally, rent paid to landlords by those on government<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> benefits is a disproportionately high percentage of their income.?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Voltaire would likely conclude the landlords are the ones<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> benefitting from this governmental transfer.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Perhaps the moratorium suspends this transfer to landlords to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> allow my taxes to temporarily fund pandemic relief.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Andrew Hay*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Hay & Swann PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 201 S. 34^th St.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Tacoma, WA 98418<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> /<a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net">www.washingtonlaw.net</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0</a>>>/<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> /<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>>/<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 253.272.2400 (w)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 253.377.3085 (c)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> DESIGNATED RECIPIENT ONLY.? IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> DESTROY ALL COPIES<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:*<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> [mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>] *On Behalf Of *K. Garl Long<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:34 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv; Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> /It is not inequality which is the real misfortune, it is<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> dependence. /Voltaire again.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> On 12/17/2020 11:25 AM, Rob Rowley wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> In general, the art of government consists of taking as much<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> money as possible from one class of citizens to give to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> another.? Voltaire.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> *On Behalf Of *Chris B<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:59 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I just entered into an agreement to sell 4 of my 12 rental<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> homes as a package.? All will be town down and replaced with<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> McMansions. These are nice homes that I am proud to own, two<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> of which have tenants in them for more than 10 years.? While<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> all my tenants are current in their rent, I no longer wish to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> be in the rental housing business in a state that is clearly<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> trying to kill that business.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> As they say, it is ?a feature, not a bug.?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Chris Benis<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Hecker, Wakefield & Feilberg, P.S.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 321 First Avenue West, Seattle, WA 98119<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 206.447-1900 office ? 206.447.9075 fax ? www.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://heckerwakefield.com">heckerwakefield.com</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This message contains information that may be CONFIDENTIAL AND<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> PRIVILEGED.? 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Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:51 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> The long-term consequences of forcing landlords to absorb<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> large financial losses are predictable:? landlords will<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> liquidate their real estate investments (they?ll sell).?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Tenants will have much less housing to choose from.? Rental<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> houses will be incredibly hard to find.? The void might be<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> filled by corporate landlords building apartments or<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> government landlords building projects.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This is very bad for tenants, long term.? The loss of rental<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> housing will affect all of us.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Rani K. Sampson*<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Overcast Law Offices | Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *From:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> *On Behalf Of<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Kary Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:37 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *To:* <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> You're generalizing.? The moratorium protects an entire class<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> regardless of their need, at the expense of another class,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> regardless of their need.? If it were based on economics I'd<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> have little problem with it, but it's not.? Beyond that<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> though, I'm worried about the long term adverse effects on<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> those who actually need the protection.? The moratorium may<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> have given them a false sense of security and lead them to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> make bad decisions.? Back when I practiced law I did primarily<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> debtor bankruptcy and the moratorium is likely causing people<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> to make decisions that no competent financial planner would<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> ever advise them to make.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Also, you can't even assume someone who rents cannot afford to<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> own.? They may just not wish to own for many different reasons.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Kary L. Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> 206 723-2148<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I will take the pro moratorium position.? Donning my suit<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> of armor at the same time?..<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> unequaled by any health crisis in 100 years.? The<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> moratoriums are a policy protecting the most vulnerable<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> people in the population as a whole ? renters.? As a group<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> they are either poor or old or both.? They are people who<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> can?t afford homes due to lack of wealth.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> Image removed by sender. 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mce_href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/4d14c511/image001-0001.jpg" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/4d14c511/image001-0001.jpg</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message: 16<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 15:06:35 -0800<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: Kary Krismer <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net" href="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net" mce_href="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net">Krismer@comcast.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net" href="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net" mce_href="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net">Krismer@comcast.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:091e508f-b4c3-072b-dae9-483a2eac2570@comcast.net" href="mailto:091e508f-b4c3-072b-dae9-483a2eac2570@comcast.net" mce_href="mailto:091e508f-b4c3-072b-dae9-483a2eac2570@comcast.net">091e508f-b4c3-072b-dae9-483a2eac2570@comcast.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:091e508f-b4c3-072b-dae9-483a2eac2570@comcast.net" href="mailto:091e508f-b4c3-072b-dae9-483a2eac2570@comcast.net" mce_href="mailto:091e508f-b4c3-072b-dae9-483a2eac2570@comcast.net">091e508f-b4c3-072b-dae9-483a2eac2570@comcast.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 2:35 PM, Eric Nelsen wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> I have pushed back before about the righteous tone on the listserv,<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> about tenants spending their money on goodies and giving the landlord<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> the finger. But if I have $1000 to spend and the choice is between<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> taking care of myself or paying money to a landlord when the law isn?t<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> going to force me to, and my relationship to the landlord is based<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> purely on money, then hell yes, I?m going to spend it on myself. And<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> please note, that is the /proper/ response under invisible hand<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> theories: do the self-interested thing and it will all balance out:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">> the landlord is hurt but Netflix benefits.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">It's fairly standard advice to people in financial trouble to pay for<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">food, rent, utilities and if possible car payments before anything<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">else.? The moratorium offered without any counseling advice turns that<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">on its head.? And since it doesn't diminish the debt eventually they<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">will need to deal with the consequences.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">But my concern has been for those who could have paid rent but don't?<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">because of the moratorium.? They will eventually have to deal with a<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">problem that would not have existed but for government telling them that<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">it was helping them.? They may very well find themselves dug into a hole<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">they cannot get out of that would otherwise not have existed.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Kary L. Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206 723-2148<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">--<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" mce_href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/0677a589/attachment-0001.html" mce_href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/0677a589/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20201217/0677a589/attachment-0001.html</a>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message: 17<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 23:14:48 +0000<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: Stephen Brandli <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: "K. Garl Long" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>>, WSBA Real Property Listserv<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088F10368B6F2C0E625EC66C0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088F10368B6F2C0E625EC66C0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com" mce_href="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088F10368B6F2C0E625EC66C0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com">MWHPR19MB1088F10368B6F2C0E625EC66C0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088F10368B6F2C0E625EC66C0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088F10368B6F2C0E625EC66C0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com" mce_href="mailto:MWHPR19MB1088F10368B6F2C0E625EC66C0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com">MWHPR19MB1088F10368B6F2C0E625EC66C0C40@MWHPR19MB1088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Whatever is the larger housing problem, focusing on that for the purposes of addressing Inslee's proclamation and potential legislation is not productive. One can argue whether Inslee's proclamation was necessary at all. I don't have the data. But it is difficult to argue that, at times, regulation is required to avoid humanitarian crises, even when it is no one's fault.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If the section is to consider advocating on this issue, it would do better recognizing that the legislature is likely to act to avoid a housing crisis and to educate on how to meet this goal without creating more victims. (I don't know if anyone is actually considering advocating at all or whether we are all shouting at the wind.)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Steve<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: K. Garl Long <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 3:06 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>; Stephen Brandli <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com" mce_href="mailto:steve@brandlilaw.com">steve@brandlilaw.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The cost of all of this "good" social policy is immediately born by owners that did not cause the problem, and ultimately by tenants who cannot prevent the problem. As others have stressed, the future is one of large entity landlords, and either exorbitant rents, or cramped undesirable housing re: East Berlin.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">KGL<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 02:59 PM, Stephen Brandli wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">We live in a society that accepts the benevolence of monetary transfers from the fortunate to the less fortunate, mostly in the form of unequal taxation. It seems to me that Inslee's goal is not such a transfer but rather avoidance of a humanitarian crisis caused by the economic impacts of the pandemic. The goal is not to benefit tenants financially by burdening landlords financially, or at least it shouldn't be. The goal is to prevent homelessness.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The current proclamation, and the proposed statute, extend well beyond this goal. This is the problem.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"> Steve<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> On Behalf Of Christy M<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 2:41 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I, for one, do not meekly accept; I vehemently support.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">-------- Original message --------<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: "K. Garl Long" <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" mce_href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Date: 12/17/20 2:15 PM (GMT-08:00)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If you choose to put money that you have earned into the pocket of the owner of a dwelling, in exchange for the privilege of living there, it is called a contract.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">If the government expropriates the dwelling from the owner so that you can live there without paying, it is theft. You may recall that the Intolerable Acts included such expropriation of dwellings. This is what our founders fought against, and which we now meekly accept.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">KGL<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 01:55 PM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Voltaire again ... As far as his notion of government taking money from one class and giving to another, as a non-landlord, I see my money going to the pockets of landlords. I fund governmental benefits with my taxes. Those benefits are paid to landlords for rent. Generally, rent paid to landlords by those on government benefits is a disproportionately high percentage of their income. Voltaire would likely conclude the landlords are the ones benefitting from this governmental transfer.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Perhaps the moratorium suspends this transfer to landlords to allow my taxes to temporarily fund pandemic relief.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Andrew Hay<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hay & Swann PLLC<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">201 S. 34th St.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Tacoma, WA 98418<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net">www.washingtonlaw.net</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075055698%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonlaw.net%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075055698%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=DtUXJVBQr9jrfAcs0VP8AjpgaqzovLn11GNixl6v0Ug%253D&reserved=0</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net" mce_href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.272.2400 (w)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">253.377.3085 (c)<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENT ONLY. 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Garl Long<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:34 PM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv; Rob Rowley<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">It is not inequality which is the real misfortune, it is dependence. Voltaire again.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 11:25 AM, Rob Rowley wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to another. Voltaire.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Chris B<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:59 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I just entered into an agreement to sell 4 of my 12 rental homes as a package. All will be town down and replaced with McMansions. These are nice homes that I am proud to own, two of which have tenants in them for more than 10 years. While all my tenants are current in their rent, I no longer wish to be in the rental housing business in a state that is clearly trying to kill that business.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">As they say, it is "a feature, not a bug."<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Chris Benis<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Hecker, Wakefield & Feilberg, P.S.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">321 First Avenue West, Seattle, WA 98119<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206.447-1900 office - 206.447.9075 fax - www. <a href="http://heckerwakefield.com">heckerwakefield.com</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheckerwakefield.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637438401075065693%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%2FF%2FIxE%3D&reserved=0</a><<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0" mce_href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%253A%252F%252Fheckerwakefield.com%252F&data=04%257C01%257C%257C3ad32d5fc4764794e46e08d8a2d935b8%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%257C1%257C0%257C637438401075065693%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000&sdata=yX6TEYkb2qMyn9cK3xUbOGsIz48aS9fz2uX8r%252FF%252FIxE%253D&reserved=0</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This message contains information that may be CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVILEGED. 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Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:51 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">The long-term consequences of forcing landlords to absorb large financial losses are predictable: landlords will liquidate their real estate investments (they'll sell). Tenants will have much less housing to choose from. Rental houses will be incredibly hard to find. The void might be filled by corporate landlords building apartments or government landlords building projects.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is very bad for tenants, long term. The loss of rental housing will affect all of us.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Rani K. Sampson<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Overcast Law Offices | Attorney<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">23 S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509) 663-5588 x 6<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">From: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> <<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>>> On Behalf Of Kary Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:37 AM<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">To: <a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" mce_href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next legislative session<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">You're generalizing. The moratorium protects an entire class regardless of their need, at the expense of another class, regardless of their need. If it were based on economics I'd have little problem with it, but it's not. Beyond that though, I'm worried about the long term adverse effects on those who actually need the protection. The moratorium may have given them a false sense of security and lead them to make bad decisions. Back when I practiced law I did primarily debtor bankruptcy and the moratorium is likely causing people to make decisions that no competent financial planner would ever advise them to make.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Also, you can't even assume someone who rents cannot afford to own. They may just not wish to own for many different reasons.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">Kary L. Krismer<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">206 723-2148<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew Hay wrote:<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">I will take the pro moratorium position. Donning my suit of armor at the same time.....<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">This is a time of great economic pain due to a pandemic unequaled by any health crisis in 100 years. The moratoriums are a policy protecting the most vulnerable people in the population as a whole - renters. As a group they are either poor or old or both. They are people who can't afford homes due to lack of wealth.<br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr"><br> </div> <div dir="ltr">________________________________<br> </div> <div dir="ltr">[Image removed by sender. 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