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    <p>In our state, as in others, representatives are elected to the
      legislature from districts.  This allows smaller population areas
      (voter minorities) to be represented, to have their views heard. 
      This is not <span style="color:windowtext">"antimajoritarian". 
        Constitutions are established as a protection against the power
        of government, and to protect against tyranny by the majority. 
        The courts are meant to be an additional  check, using the
        restrictions and guarantees of the constitution to check the
        power</span><span style="color:windowtext"> of government</span><span
        style="color:windowtext">.  On this, I believe, we can all
        agree.<br>
      </span></p>
    <p><span style="color:windowtext">Our system allows, and indeed
        requires, informed political debate; which is what this string
        seems to have been.</span></p>
    <p><span style="color:windowtext">A good weekend to all,</span></p>
    <p><span style="color:windowtext">KGL<br>
      </span></p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/18/2020 10:08 AM, Eric Nelsen
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Life tenure
            for federal judges, the apportionment of the US Senate, and
            the electoral college, being the antimajoritarian aspects of
            the structure of federal government, don’t seem relevant to
            this Washington state discussion. The Washington State
            bicameral legislature is proportionally representative in
            both houses and operates by majority rule in both houses.
            Our judges are elected at every level all the way up to the
            Supreme Court. I don’t think any of that has changed since
            the state was founded in 1889.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I suppose a
            judiciary can be considered to some extent
            “antimajoritarian” simply by its existence, in that rule of
            law helps prevent mob rule and re-channels efforts to change
            the law to the legislative process. But a judiciary is also
            upholding the laws enacted by the legislature, which is
            basically a pro-majoritarian function.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Hairsplitting
            about Constitutional Republic versus Representative
            Democracy doesn’t change the fact that self-governance, by
            either structure, involves consent of all to abide by the
            collective decision of the government. That is, by
            definition, rule of law.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">So if our
            self-governmental process--the state legislature--changes
            the legal landscape in a way that prioritizes life or
            liberty over certain property rights, that is not tyranny
            just because one might disagree with the decision. A lawyer
            who stands against that process would be, by definition,
            <i>opposing</i> the rule of law.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">None of
            which means a lawyer can’t fiercely advocate for a change in
            the law, or argue regulatory taking or whatever. But that’s
            not an “antimajoritarian” role for lawyers as a group;
            that’s individual advocacy within the law.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">It’s
            incoherent to argue that “rule of law” prevents the
            legislature from changing the law. If one doesn’t like the
            change, one is simply arguing for the status quo. Of course
            one has a right to do so; but it does not make that person a
            righteous defender of rule of law, or a principled
            antimajoritarian. It’s just a political position, and win or
            lose the legislative battle, I would expect compliance with
            the law.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Eric C.
              Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Sayre Law
              Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">1417 31st
              Ave South<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Seattle WA
              98144-3909<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">206-625-0092<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><a
                href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="color:windowtext;background:aqua;mso-highlight:aqua">Covid-19
                Update -
              </span></b><span style="color:windowtext">All attorneys
              are working remotely during regular business hours and are
              available via email and by phone. Videoconferencing also
              is available. Signing of estate planning documents can be
              completed and will be handled on a case-by-case basis.
              Please direct mail and deliveries to the Seattle office.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                style="color:windowtext"> K. Garl Long
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz"><Garl@longlaw.biz></a>
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:50 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com></a>; Eric Nelsen
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com"><eric@sayrelawoffices.com></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next
                legislative session<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p>Our country was founded as a Constitutional Republic, not an
          absolute Democracy. We did this to avoid the institution of
          tyranny by the majority.  We did this to protect the minority,
          to assure that each person, would have the inalienable right
          live life in liberty, to pursue happiness without fearing
          deprivation by the majority. <o:p>
          </o:p></p>
        <p>It is true that our constitutions have been much weakened, it
          may be that this will continue until the majority can trample
          unfettered on the rights of disfavored groups; it will most
          certainly occur if lawyers do not stand for the rule of law,
          especially against the majority.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>KGL<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 12/17/2020 05:34 PM, Eric Nelsen
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
        </div>
        <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">It would
              be good for some real property lawyers to be involved in
              further discussions of the moratoria, and certainly
              anything as consequential as legislation.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">“Outvoting
              y’all” is also called majority rule in a democracy. That
              rests on the social contract, that for the greater good of
              all, the minority agrees to abide by the decision of the
              majority. There is a flood of opinionated people in this
              country right now who appear to have forgotten that. I
              would hope that lawyers as a group have not forgotten. If
              our legislators change the priorities between property
              rights and life and liberty interests, that is how
              self-governance works.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">“Expropriation
              of dwellings” bollocks. No
              <i>landlord</i> is being removed from their home.
              Landlords’ right to use the courts to enforce payment of
              rent is being temporarily blocked during a health
              emergency. The debt remains owing and there will be a huge
              financial and legal mess to clean up. But I think calling
              it “expropriation of dwellings” is hardly appropriate.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Eric</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Eric C.
                Nelsen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Sayre
                Law Offices, PLLC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">1417
                31st Ave South</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Seattle
                WA 98144-3909</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">206-625-0092</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><a
                  href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                  style="color:windowtext;background:aqua;mso-highlight:aqua">Covid-19
                  Update -
                </span></b><span style="color:windowtext">All attorneys
                are working remotely during regular business hours and
                are available via email and by phone. Videoconferencing
                also is available. Signing of estate planning documents
                can be completed and will be handled on a case-by-case
                basis. Please direct mail and deliveries to the Seattle
                office.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                  style="color:windowtext">
                  <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
                  <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com></a>
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lenard Wittlake<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 4:36 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <a
                    href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">
                    <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com></a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next
                  legislative session</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So there you
              have it.  There are enough who “vehemently support” the
              “expropriation of dwellings” that they can now outvote
              y’all, so what do you expect from politicians?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Since the
              Governor has not “surgically” addressed the overreach
              problems in four iterations of the moratorium, it is not
              likely going to happen in the fifth.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It appears to
              be time for the section to organize an evaluation of the
              proposed legislation.  I assume our appointed leaders are
              working on such.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Lenard L
                Wittlake, PLLC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Attorney
                & Counselor at Law</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">22 East
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                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christy M<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 2:41 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next
                  legislative session</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">I, for one, do not meekly accept; I
            vehemently support.  <o:p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">-------- Original message --------<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">From: "K. Garl Long" <<a
                href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" moz-do-not-send="true">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>>
              <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Date: 12/17/20 2:15 PM (GMT-08:00) <o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a
                href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
              <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question
              - Next legislative session
              <o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p>If you choose to put money that you have earned into the
              pocket of the owner of a dwelling, in exchange for the
              privilege of living there, it is called a contract.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>If the government expropriates the dwelling from the
              owner so that you can live there without paying, it is
              theft. You may recall that the Intolerable Acts included
              such expropriation of dwellings.  This is what our
              founders fought against, and which we now meekly accept.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p>KGL<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">On 12/17/2020 01:55 PM, Andrew Hay
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Voltaire
                    again … As far as his notion of government taking
                    money from one class and giving to another, as a
                    non-landlord, I see my money going to  the pockets
                    of landlords.  I fund governmental benefits with my
                    taxes.  Those benefits are paid to landlords for
                    rent.  Generally, rent paid to landlords by those on
                    government benefits is a disproportionately high
                    percentage of their income.  Voltaire would likely
                    conclude the landlords are the ones benefitting from
                    this governmental transfer.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Perhaps
                    the moratorium suspends this transfer to landlords
                    to allow my taxes to temporarily fund pandemic
                    relief.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Andrew Hay</b><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Hay & Swann PLLC<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">201 S. 34<sup>th</sup> St.<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Tacoma, WA 98418<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
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                        <a
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                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>K. Garl Long<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:34 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv; Rob
                        Rowley<br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question -
                        Next legislative session</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                <p><i>It is not inequality which is the real misfortune,
                    it is dependence. </i>Voltaire again.<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">On 12/17/2020 11:25 AM, Rob
                    Rowley wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#202124;background:white">In
                      general, the art of government consists of taking
                      as much money as possible from one class of
                      citizens to give to another.  Voltaire.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#202124;background:white"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a
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                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris B<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:59
                        AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a
                          href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question -
                        Next legislative session<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">I just entered into an agreement
                    to sell 4 of my 12 rental homes as a package.  All
                    will be town down and replaced with McMansions.
                    These are nice homes that I am proud to own, two of
                    which have tenants in them for more than 10 years. 
                    While all my tenants are current in their rent, I no
                    longer wish to be in the rental housing business in
                    a state that is clearly trying to kill that
                    business. 
                    <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">As they say, it is “a feature,
                    not a bug.”<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Chris Benis<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Hecker, Wakefield & Feilberg,
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a
                          href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">
                          wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a
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                          moz-do-not-send="true">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rani K. Sampson<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:51
                        AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a
                          href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question -
                        Next legislative session<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">The long-term consequences of
                    forcing landlords to absorb large financial losses
                    are predictable:  landlords will liquidate their
                    real estate investments (they’ll sell).  Tenants
                    will have much less housing to choose from.  Rental
                    houses will be incredibly hard to find.  The void
                    might be filled by corporate landlords building
                    apartments or government landlords building
                    projects. 
                    <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">This is very bad for tenants,
                    long term.  The loss of rental housing will affect
                    all of us.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">Rani K. Sampson</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Overcast
                        Law Offices | Attorney</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">23
                        S Wenatchee Ave #320, Wenatchee WA 98801 | (509)
                        663-5588 x 6</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a
                          href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">
                          wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a
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                          moz-do-not-send="true">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kary Krismer<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:37
                        AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a
                          href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question -
                        Next legislative session<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p>You're generalizing.  The moratorium protects an
                    entire class regardless of their need, at the
                    expense of another class, regardless of their need. 
                    If it were based on economics I'd have little
                    problem with it, but it's not.  Beyond that though,
                    I'm worried about the long term adverse effects on
                    those who actually need the protection.  The
                    moratorium may have given them a false sense of
                    security and lead them to make bad decisions.  Back
                    when I practiced law I did primarily debtor
                    bankruptcy and the moratorium is likely causing
                    people to make decisions that no competent financial
                    planner would ever advise them to make.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p>Also, you can't even assume someone who rents
                    cannot afford to own.  They may just not wish to own
                    for many different reasons.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <pre>Kary L. Krismer<o:p></o:p></pre>
                  <pre>206 723-2148<o:p></o:p></pre>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew
                      Hay wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote
                    style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I
                        will take the pro moratorium position.  Donning
                        my suit of armor at the same time…..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This
                        is a time of great economic pain due to a
                        pandemic unequaled by any health crisis in 100
                        years.  The moratoriums are a policy protecting
                        the most vulnerable people in the population as
                        a whole – renters.  As a group they are either
                        poor or old or both.  They are people who can’t
                        afford homes due to lack of wealth.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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