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<p>In our state, as in others, representatives are elected to the
legislature from districts. This allows smaller population areas
(voter minorities) to be represented, to have their views heard.
This is not <span style="color:windowtext">"antimajoritarian".
Constitutions are established as a protection against the power
of government, and to protect against tyranny by the majority.
The courts are meant to be an additional check, using the
restrictions and guarantees of the constitution to check the
power</span><span style="color:windowtext"> of government</span><span
style="color:windowtext">. On this, I believe, we can all
agree.<br>
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<p><span style="color:windowtext">Our system allows, and indeed
requires, informed political debate; which is what this string
seems to have been.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:windowtext">A good weekend to all,</span></p>
<p><span style="color:windowtext">KGL<br>
</span></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/18/2020 10:08 AM, Eric Nelsen
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Life tenure
for federal judges, the apportionment of the US Senate, and
the electoral college, being the antimajoritarian aspects of
the structure of federal government, don’t seem relevant to
this Washington state discussion. The Washington State
bicameral legislature is proportionally representative in
both houses and operates by majority rule in both houses.
Our judges are elected at every level all the way up to the
Supreme Court. I don’t think any of that has changed since
the state was founded in 1889.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I suppose a
judiciary can be considered to some extent
“antimajoritarian” simply by its existence, in that rule of
law helps prevent mob rule and re-channels efforts to change
the law to the legislative process. But a judiciary is also
upholding the laws enacted by the legislature, which is
basically a pro-majoritarian function.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Hairsplitting
about Constitutional Republic versus Representative
Democracy doesn’t change the fact that self-governance, by
either structure, involves consent of all to abide by the
collective decision of the government. That is, by
definition, rule of law.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">So if our
self-governmental process--the state legislature--changes
the legal landscape in a way that prioritizes life or
liberty over certain property rights, that is not tyranny
just because one might disagree with the decision. A lawyer
who stands against that process would be, by definition,
<i>opposing</i> the rule of law.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">None of
which means a lawyer can’t fiercely advocate for a change in
the law, or argue regulatory taking or whatever. But that’s
not an “antimajoritarian” role for lawyers as a group;
that’s individual advocacy within the law.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">It’s
incoherent to argue that “rule of law” prevents the
legislature from changing the law. If one doesn’t like the
change, one is simply arguing for the status quo. Of course
one has a right to do so; but it does not make that person a
righteous defender of rule of law, or a principled
antimajoritarian. It’s just a political position, and win or
lose the legislative battle, I would expect compliance with
the law.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Eric C.
Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Sayre Law
Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">1417 31st
Ave South<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Seattle WA
98144-3909<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">206-625-0092<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><a
href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> K. Garl Long
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz"><Garl@longlaw.biz></a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com></a>; Eric Nelsen
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com"><eric@sayrelawoffices.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next
legislative session<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Our country was founded as a Constitutional Republic, not an
absolute Democracy. We did this to avoid the institution of
tyranny by the majority. We did this to protect the minority,
to assure that each person, would have the inalienable right
live life in liberty, to pursue happiness without fearing
deprivation by the majority. <o:p>
</o:p></p>
<p>It is true that our constitutions have been much weakened, it
may be that this will continue until the majority can trample
unfettered on the rights of disfavored groups; it will most
certainly occur if lawyers do not stand for the rule of law,
especially against the majority.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>KGL<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/17/2020 05:34 PM, Eric Nelsen
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">It would
be good for some real property lawyers to be involved in
further discussions of the moratoria, and certainly
anything as consequential as legislation.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">“Outvoting
y’all” is also called majority rule in a democracy. That
rests on the social contract, that for the greater good of
all, the minority agrees to abide by the decision of the
majority. There is a flood of opinionated people in this
country right now who appear to have forgotten that. I
would hope that lawyers as a group have not forgotten. If
our legislators change the priorities between property
rights and life and liberty interests, that is how
self-governance works.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">“Expropriation
of dwellings” bollocks. No
<i>landlord</i> is being removed from their home.
Landlords’ right to use the courts to enforce payment of
rent is being temporarily blocked during a health
emergency. The debt remains owing and there will be a huge
financial and legal mess to clean up. But I think calling
it “expropriation of dwellings” is hardly appropriate.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Eric</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Eric C.
Nelsen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Sayre
Law Offices, PLLC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">1417
31st Ave South</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Seattle
WA 98144-3909</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">206-625-0092</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><a
href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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are available via email and by phone. Videoconferencing
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
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moz-do-not-send="true">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lenard Wittlake<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 4:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <a
href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next
legislative session</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So there you
have it. There are enough who “vehemently support” the
“expropriation of dwellings” that they can now outvote
y’all, so what do you expect from politicians?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Since the
Governor has not “surgically” addressed the overreach
problems in four iterations of the moratorium, it is not
likely going to happen in the fifth.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It appears to
be time for the section to organize an evaluation of the
proposed legislation. I assume our appointed leaders are
working on such.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Lenard L
Wittlake, PLLC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Attorney
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christy M<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 2:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next
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<p class="MsoNormal">I, for one, do not meekly accept; I
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: "K. Garl Long" <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">Date: 12/17/20 2:15 PM (GMT-08:00) <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question
- Next legislative session
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<p>If you choose to put money that you have earned into the
pocket of the owner of a dwelling, in exchange for the
privilege of living there, it is called a contract.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If the government expropriates the dwelling from the
owner so that you can live there without paying, it is
theft. You may recall that the Intolerable Acts included
such expropriation of dwellings. This is what our
founders fought against, and which we now meekly accept.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>KGL<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/17/2020 01:55 PM, Andrew Hay
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Voltaire
again … As far as his notion of government taking
money from one class and giving to another, as a
non-landlord, I see my money going to the pockets
of landlords. I fund governmental benefits with my
taxes. Those benefits are paid to landlords for
rent. Generally, rent paid to landlords by those on
government benefits is a disproportionately high
percentage of their income. Voltaire would likely
conclude the landlords are the ones benefitting from
this governmental transfer.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Perhaps
the moratorium suspends this transfer to landlords
to allow my taxes to temporarily fund pandemic
relief.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>K. Garl Long<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv; Rob
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question -
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<p><i>It is not inequality which is the real misfortune,
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/17/2020 11:25 AM, Rob
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris B<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:59
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<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question -
Next legislative session<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just entered into an agreement
to sell 4 of my 12 rental homes as a package. All
will be town down and replaced with McMansions.
These are nice homes that I am proud to own, two of
which have tenants in them for more than 10 years.
While all my tenants are current in their rent, I no
longer wish to be in the rental housing business in
a state that is clearly trying to kill that
business.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rani K. Sampson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:51
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a
href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question -
Next legislative session<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The long-term consequences of
forcing landlords to absorb large financial losses
are predictable: landlords will liquidate their
real estate investments (they’ll sell). Tenants
will have much less housing to choose from. Rental
houses will be incredibly hard to find. The void
might be filled by corporate landlords building
apartments or government landlords building
projects.
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is very bad for tenants,
long term. The loss of rental housing will affect
all of us.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Overcast
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kary Krismer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:37
AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question -
Next legislative session<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>You're generalizing. The moratorium protects an
entire class regardless of their need, at the
expense of another class, regardless of their need.
If it were based on economics I'd have little
problem with it, but it's not. Beyond that though,
I'm worried about the long term adverse effects on
those who actually need the protection. The
moratorium may have given them a false sense of
security and lead them to make bad decisions. Back
when I practiced law I did primarily debtor
bankruptcy and the moratorium is likely causing
people to make decisions that no competent financial
planner would ever advise them to make.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Also, you can't even assume someone who rents
cannot afford to own. They may just not wish to own
for many different reasons.<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Kary L. Krismer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>206 723-2148<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew
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my suit of armor at the same time…..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This
is a time of great economic pain due to a
pandemic unequaled by any health crisis in 100
years. The moratoriums are a policy protecting
the most vulnerable people in the population as
a whole – renters. As a group they are either
poor or old or both. They are people who can’t
afford homes due to lack of wealth.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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