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<p>If you choose to put money that you have earned into the pocket
of the owner of a dwelling, in exchange for the privilege of
living there, it is called a contract.</p>
<p>If the government expropriates the dwelling from the owner so
that you can live there without paying, it is theft. You may
recall that the Intolerable Acts included such expropriation of
dwellings. This is what our founders fought against, and which we
now meekly accept.</p>
<p>KGL<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Voltaire again
… As far as his notion of government taking money from one
class and giving to another, as a non-landlord, I see my
money going to the pockets of landlords. I fund
governmental benefits with my taxes. Those benefits are
paid to landlords for rent. Generally, rent paid to
landlords by those on government benefits is a
disproportionately high percentage of their income.
Voltaire would likely conclude the landlords are the ones
benefitting from this governmental transfer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Perhaps the
moratorium suspends this transfer to landlords to allow my
taxes to temporarily fund pandemic relief.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>K. Garl Long<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv; Rob Rowley<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next
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<p><i>It is not inequality which is the real misfortune, it is
dependence. </i>Voltaire again.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/17/2020 11:25 AM, Rob Rowley wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#202124;background:white">In
general, the art of government consists of taking as much
money as possible from one class of citizens to give to
another. Voltaire.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris B<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a
href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next
legislative session<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just entered into an agreement to sell
4 of my 12 rental homes as a package. All will be town down
and replaced with McMansions. These are nice homes that I am
proud to own, two of which have tenants in them for more
than 10 years. While all my tenants are current in their
rent, I no longer wish to be in the rental housing business
in a state that is clearly trying to kill that business.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As they say, it is “a feature, not a
bug.”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chris Benis<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hecker, Wakefield & Feilberg, P.S.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a
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wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a
href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rani K. Sampson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a
href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman
,serif","serif"">The long-term consequences
of forcing landlords to absorb large financial losses are
predictable: landlords will liquidate their real estate
investments (they’ll sell). Tenants will have much less
housing to choose from. Rental houses will be incredibly
hard to find. The void might be filled by corporate
landlords building apartments or government landlords
building projects.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman
,serif","serif"">This is very bad for
tenants, long term. The loss of rental housing will
affect all of us.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Rani
K. Sampson</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kary Krismer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question - Next
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>You're generalizing. The moratorium protects an entire
class regardless of their need, at the expense of another
class, regardless of their need. If it were based on
economics I'd have little problem with it, but it's not.
Beyond that though, I'm worried about the long term adverse
effects on those who actually need the protection. The
moratorium may have given them a false sense of security and
lead them to make bad decisions. Back when I practiced law
I did primarily debtor bankruptcy and the moratorium is
likely causing people to make decisions that no competent
financial planner would ever advise them to make.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Also, you can't even assume someone who rents cannot afford
to own. They may just not wish to own for many different
reasons.<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Kary L. Krismer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>206 723-2148<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/17/2020 10:20 AM, Andrew Hay
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I will take
the pro moratorium position. Donning my suit of armor
at the same time…..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This is a
time of great economic pain due to a pandemic unequaled
by any health crisis in 100 years. The moratoriums are
a policy protecting the most vulnerable people in the
population as a whole – renters. As a group they are
either poor or old or both. They are people who can’t
afford homes due to lack of wealth.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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