<div style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">My partner and I have taken a preliminary look at this. I am certainly no constitutional expert and we have just been thinking through the process.
<div>A takin theory will not work as the deprivation needs to be permanent. The Washington constitution has a contract provision. I do not believe there is </div>
<div>any thing comparable in the US constitution. We have not explored the idea of due process or a 1984 action. </div>
<div> Two law suits have been filed over the restrictions that I am aware of. One in Chelan County and on in federal court in Tacoma. My impression is that they were a visceral reaction by right wing groups that were not well thought</div>
<div>out. Neither went any where. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">From: "K. Garl Long" <<a ymailto="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz" href="mailto:Garl@longlaw.biz">Garl@longlaw.biz</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Yes, where are the lawyers defending the right to contract? (Or, yea, my <br>
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<div dir="ltr">On 12/15/2020 10:53 AM, Jennifer L White wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Rob,<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> I?m curious if any of you LL/T gurus and/or real property litigators <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> constitutional takings basis? It seems to me that the government has <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> turned private landlords into unwilling purveyors of public housing. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> All of these regulations/laws were hastily conceived and handed down <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> by fiat. The result has been a tremendous and concentrated loss to <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> private property owners. Perhaps it has to play out further? Have to <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> wait to quantify the exact loss when the moratoriums end and you work <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> through getting them out under all of these onerous ?drag it out? <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> policies benefiting only tenants? We all know that deadbeat tenants <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Jennifer L. White, Esq.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Landlord Question<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> As I tell my landlord clients we lawyers don't like guaranteeing <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> anything but there is one thing I will guarantee is that the <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Governor?will extend the moratorium sometime into 2021.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Also, I suspect that Pres. Biden (once in office) will also extend the <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> CDC?moratorium which is scheduled to lapse on December 31 which is <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> You also have to look at your local county to see if they are part of <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> the Eviction Resolution Program.??Spokane County?where I am based out <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> of is a part of the ERP?and?eventually once the moratorium is lifted <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> <a href="http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.EvictionResolutionProgram" target="_blank">http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.EvictionResolutionProgram</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Also, the upcoming legislative session has a number of?bills which <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> while). Who knows what actually will pass as law is a different <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> question.??Two things that you never want to see being made?is sausage <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Summary:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> <a href="https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf" target="_blank">https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">> If I'm a betting man I would say the Legislature will pass some very <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> moratorium.??In other words, let the Legislature take the flak?from <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> those unpaid landlords.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Interesting times we live in.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:32 PM Sangeeta Saigal <br>
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<div dir="ltr">> I understand that there is a moratorium against evictions until<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> According to how I understand the proclamation this moratorium<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sangeeta,? ? ? The moratorium applies to all evictions with a few exceptions. The fact a tenant is unaffected by the Covid has no bearing on it.?? ? ? I think it is arguable that the proclamation is unconstitutional as being overly broad and an interference with contractual relations. I has a similar scenario and have filed a claimagainst the state. No response yet.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Inge Fordham <<a ymailto="mailto:inge@fordhamlegal.com" href="mailto:inge@fordhamlegal.com">inge@fordhamlegal.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: [WSBARP] Selling Property & Retaining Tideland Rights<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:391D151B-FF62-4ACB-9FA9-B559BE447859@fordhamlegal.com" href="mailto:391D151B-FF62-4ACB-9FA9-B559BE447859@fordhamlegal.com">391D151B-FF62-4ACB-9FA9-B559BE447859@fordhamlegal.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">A PC contacted me with an interesting situation.? She has a waterfront house with tideland rights and a contract to sell shellfish.? She wishes to sell the property but retain the tideland rights and the contract.? Is this even possible?? I can think of folks who retain mineral rights but tideland rights may be a whole separate bag of worms.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:55:01 -0800<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Kaitlyn Jackson <<a ymailto="mailto:kaitlyn@dimensionlaw.com" href="mailto:kaitlyn@dimensionlaw.com">kaitlyn@dimensionlaw.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: [WSBARP] PC - Social Security of Deceased sister<br>
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<div dir="ltr">PC's sister passed away without a spouse, children, or a will. PC's brother<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:51:49 -0400<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Selling Property & Retaining Tideland Rights<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If the tidelands are a separate tax parcel, and she is the owner of that tax parcel, then she can sell the uplands and retain ownership of the tidelands.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">A PC contacted me with an interesting situation.? She has a waterfront house with tideland rights and a contract to sell shellfish.? She wishes to sell the property but retain the tideland rights and the contract.? Is this even possible?? I can think of folks who retain mineral rights but tideland rights may be a whole separate bag of worms.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:30:06 -0800<br>
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<div dir="ltr">??? <CAONTfDn68_pzUSad93ha3Kvaz9wHPOHA=<a ymailto="mailto:aC0GHcf8u9Q8jRkbQ@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:aC0GHcf8u9Q8jRkbQ@mail.gmail.com">aC0GHcf8u9Q8jRkbQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">As I tell my landlord clients we lawyers don't like guaranteeing anything<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If I'm a betting man I would say the Legislature will pass some very tenant<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:32 PM Sangeeta Saigal <<a ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">> According to how I understand the proclamation this moratorium applies to<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> If a residential tenant has not lost their source of income ie. On govt<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I handled a transaction like this several years ago where the seller retained the right to proceeds from the crop that was planted and after that, had no ongoing rights in the tidelands or a shellfish lease.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Jeremy <<a ymailto="mailto:jeremy@basalt.legal" href="mailto:jeremy@basalt.legal">jeremy@basalt.legal</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: [WSBARP] i/s/o Responsive HI Real Property Attorney<br>
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<div dir="ltr">??? <<a ymailto="mailto:MWHPR18MB1087031415E7AE1FEE697F7DB2C60@MWHPR18MB1087.namprd18.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MWHPR18MB1087031415E7AE1FEE697F7DB2C60@MWHPR18MB1087.namprd18.prod.outlook.com">MWHPR18MB1087031415E7AE1FEE697F7DB2C60@MWHPR18MB1087.namprd18.prod.outlook.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Any recommendations for a good Hawaii real estate attorney? Thanks!<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Very truly yours,<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Jeremy Scott Hyndman, Esq.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:50:45 -0800<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Roger Moss <<a ymailto="mailto:ram@rinconres.org" href="mailto:ram@rinconres.org">ram@rinconres.org</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">> How best to approach such tenant who seems to be taking advantage of the moratorium.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Possible answers depend on hearing information not in your question. And for the reasons Rob Rowley laid out this morning, ?approaches? at this time should be elliptical, grounded in sleuthing and soft skills, more than other things.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> According to how I understand the proclamation this moratorium applies to tenants who have lost their jobs or source of income related to Covid.? ? <br>
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<div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:53:34 +0000<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Kailei Feeney <<a ymailto="mailto:kailei@westseattlelaw.com" href="mailto:kailei@westseattlelaw.com">kailei@westseattlelaw.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Selling Property & Retaining Tideland Rights<br>
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<div dir="ltr">??? <<a ymailto="mailto:MW3PR22MB2266ABE207CA70160FC36595A7C60@MW3PR22MB2266.namprd22.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MW3PR22MB2266ABE207CA70160FC36595A7C60@MW3PR22MB2266.namprd22.prod.outlook.com">MW3PR22MB2266ABE207CA70160FC36595A7C60@MW3PR22MB2266.namprd22.prod.outlook.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Agreed ? it will depend on the parcels, a lot in our state have tidelands and adjacent property as separate TPNs. If so, then also ensuring your client has or creates a necessary grant of access prior to sale will likely be important.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If the tidelands are a separate tax parcel, and she is the owner of that tax parcel, then she can sell the uplands and retain ownership of the tidelands.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: <a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> On Behalf Of Inge Fordham<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 18:04:18 +0000<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Virginia Antipolo-Utt <<a ymailto="mailto:virginia@aplawfirm.com" href="mailto:virginia@aplawfirm.com">virginia@aplawfirm.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] i/s/o Responsive HI Real Property Attorney<br>
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<div dir="ltr">??? <<a ymailto="mailto:MWHPR04MB048123FBAE6E366A334287C0CBC60@MWHPR04MB0481.namprd04.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MWHPR04MB048123FBAE6E366A334287C0CBC60@MWHPR04MB0481.namprd04.prod.outlook.com">MWHPR04MB048123FBAE6E366A334287C0CBC60@MWHPR04MB0481.namprd04.prod.outlook.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Jennifer L White <<a ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">I?m curious if any of you LL/T gurus and/or real property litigators are considering filing some kind of action or class action on a constitutional takings basis? It seems to me that the government has turned private landlords into unwilling purveyors of public housing. All of these regulations/laws were hastily conceived and handed down by fiat. The result has been a tremendous and concentrated loss to private property owners. Perhaps it has to play out further? Have to wait to quantify the exact loss when the moratoriums end and you work through getting them out under all of these onerous ?drag it out? policies benefiting only tenants? We all know that deadbeat tenants are never going to pay up even a tiny fraction of what they owe. That is but a legal illusion of justice for the property owners.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">As I tell my landlord clients we lawyers don't like guaranteeing anything but there is one thing I will guarantee is that the Governor will extend the moratorium sometime into 2021.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Also, I suspect that Pres. Biden (once in office) will also extend the CDC moratorium which is scheduled to lapse on December 31 which is only for nonpayment of rent.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">You also have to look at your local county to see if they are part of the Eviction Resolution Program.? Spokane County where I am based out of is a part of the ERP and eventually once the moratorium is lifted we have to participate in the program.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Also, the upcoming legislative session has a number of bills which will be filed which will essentially make it near impossible to evict a for rent (or anything) anytime soon (month to month goes away for a while). Who knows what actually will pass as law is a different question.? Two things that you never want to see being made is sausage and law.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If I'm a betting man I would say the Legislature will pass some very tenant friendly provisions tied to the governor lifting the moratorium.? In other words, let the Legislature take the flak from those unpaid landlords.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Inge Fordham <<a ymailto="mailto:inge@fordhamlegal.com" href="mailto:inge@fordhamlegal.com">inge@fordhamlegal.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: [WSBARP] Selling Property & Retaining Tideland Rights<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:391D151B-FF62-4ACB-9FA9-B559BE447859@fordhamlegal.com" href="mailto:391D151B-FF62-4ACB-9FA9-B559BE447859@fordhamlegal.com">391D151B-FF62-4ACB-9FA9-B559BE447859@fordhamlegal.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Colleagues,<br>
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<div dir="ltr">A PC contacted me with an interesting situation.? She has a waterfront house with tideland rights and a contract to sell shellfish.? She wishes to sell the property but retain the tideland rights and the contract.? Is this even possible?? I can think of folks who retain mineral rights but tideland rights may be a whole separate bag of worms.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:55:01 -0800<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Kaitlyn Jackson <<a ymailto="mailto:kaitlyn@dimensionlaw.com" href="mailto:kaitlyn@dimensionlaw.com">kaitlyn@dimensionlaw.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: [WSBARP] PC - Social Security of Deceased sister<br>
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<div dir="ltr">PC's sister passed away without a spouse, children, or a will. PC's brother<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you,<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:51:49 -0400<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Selling Property & Retaining Tideland Rights<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If the tidelands are a separate tax parcel, and she is the owner of that tax parcel, then she can sell the uplands and retain ownership of the tidelands.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">A PC contacted me with an interesting situation.? She has a waterfront house with tideland rights and a contract to sell shellfish.? She wishes to sell the property but retain the tideland rights and the contract.? Is this even possible?? I can think of folks who retain mineral rights but tideland rights may be a whole separate bag of worms.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:30:06 -0800<br>
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<div dir="ltr">It may be easier for seller to take back a long-term agricultural-style lease that provides for variable payments to new owner based on crop yields.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">??? <CAONTfDn68_pzUSad93ha3Kvaz9wHPOHA=<a ymailto="mailto:aC0GHcf8u9Q8jRkbQ@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:aC0GHcf8u9Q8jRkbQ@mail.gmail.com">aC0GHcf8u9Q8jRkbQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">As I tell my landlord clients we lawyers don't like guaranteeing anything<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If I'm a betting man I would say the Legislature will pass some very tenant<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> I understand that there is a moratorium against evictions until December 31<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> If a residential tenant has not lost their source of income ie. On govt<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I handled a transaction like this several years ago where the seller retained the right to proceeds from the crop that was planted and after that, had no ongoing rights in the tidelands or a shellfish lease.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: [WSBARP] i/s/o Responsive HI Real Property Attorney<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Roger Moss <<a ymailto="mailto:ram@rinconres.org" href="mailto:ram@rinconres.org">ram@rinconres.org</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">> How best to approach such tenant who seems to be taking advantage of the moratorium.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Selling Property & Retaining Tideland Rights<br>
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<div dir="ltr">??? <<a ymailto="mailto:MW3PR22MB2266ABE207CA70160FC36595A7C60@MW3PR22MB2266.namprd22.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MW3PR22MB2266ABE207CA70160FC36595A7C60@MW3PR22MB2266.namprd22.prod.outlook.com">MW3PR22MB2266ABE207CA70160FC36595A7C60@MW3PR22MB2266.namprd22.prod.outlook.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Agreed ? it will depend on the parcels, a lot in our state have tidelands and adjacent property as separate TPNs. If so, then also ensuring your client has or creates a necessary grant of access prior to sale will likely be important.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If the tidelands are a separate tax parcel, and she is the owner of that tax parcel, then she can sell the uplands and retain ownership of the tidelands.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: <a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>> On Behalf Of Inge Fordham<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Virginia Antipolo-Utt <<a ymailto="mailto:virginia@aplawfirm.com" href="mailto:virginia@aplawfirm.com">virginia@aplawfirm.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] i/s/o Responsive HI Real Property Attorney<br>
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<div dir="ltr">??? <<a ymailto="mailto:MWHPR04MB048123FBAE6E366A334287C0CBC60@MWHPR04MB0481.namprd04.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MWHPR04MB048123FBAE6E366A334287C0CBC60@MWHPR04MB0481.namprd04.prod.outlook.com">MWHPR04MB048123FBAE6E366A334287C0CBC60@MWHPR04MB0481.namprd04.prod.outlook.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Jennifer L White <<a ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">I?m curious if any of you LL/T gurus and/or real property litigators are considering filing some kind of action or class action on a constitutional takings basis? It seems to me that the government has turned private landlords into unwilling purveyors of public housing. All of these regulations/laws were hastily conceived and handed down by fiat. The result has been a tremendous and concentrated loss to private property owners. Perhaps it has to play out further? Have to wait to quantify the exact loss when the moratoriums end and you work through getting them out under all of these onerous ?drag it out? policies benefiting only tenants? We all know that deadbeat tenants are never going to pay up even a tiny fraction of what they owe. That is but a legal illusion of justice for the property owners.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: <a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> On Behalf Of Rowley, Rob<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 6:49 AM<br>
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<div dir="ltr">As I tell my landlord clients we lawyers don't like guaranteeing anything but there is one thing I will guarantee is that the Governor will extend the moratorium sometime into 2021.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Also, I suspect that Pres. Biden (once in office) will also extend the CDC moratorium which is scheduled to lapse on December 31 which is only for nonpayment of rent.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">You also have to look at your local county to see if they are part of the Eviction Resolution Program.? Spokane County where I am based out of is a part of the ERP and eventually once the moratorium is lifted we have to participate in the program.<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.EvictionResolutionProgram" target="_blank">http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.EvictionResolutionProgram</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Also, the upcoming legislative session has a number of bills which will be filed which will essentially make it near impossible to evict a for rent (or anything) anytime soon (month to month goes away for a while). Who knows what actually will pass as law is a different question.? Two things that you never want to see being made is sausage and law.<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><a href="https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf" target="_blank">https://files.constantcontact.com/4d179692501/55a538ca-e731-49eb-a80d-9a7300174631.pdf</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">If I'm a betting man I would say the Legislature will pass some very tenant friendly provisions tied to the governor lifting the moratorium.? In other words, let the Legislature take the flak from those unpaid landlords.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:32 PM Sangeeta Saigal <<a ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com" href="mailto:attorney@sangeetasaigal.com">attorney@sangeetasaigal.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">According to how I understand the proclamation this moratorium applies to tenants who have lost their jobs or source of income related to Covid.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">As a lowly dirt attorney a little bit beyond my pay grade.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">after the Yim I and Yim II (2019) cases. There was an excellent article<br>
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<div dir="ltr">*From:* <a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">I?m curious if any of you LL/T gurus and/or real property litigators are<br>
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<div dir="ltr">takings basis? It seems to me that the government has turned private<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Perhaps it has to play out further? Have to wait to quantify the exact loss<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Craig Gourley <<a ymailto="mailto:craig@glgmail.com" href="mailto:craig@glgmail.com">craig@glgmail.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:MW3PR12MB4346B80C6F3D229D309FE98CAEC60@MW3PR12MB4346.namprd12.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:MW3PR12MB4346B80C6F3D229D309FE98CAEC60@MW3PR12MB4346.namprd12.prod.outlook.com">MW3PR12MB4346B80C6F3D229D309FE98CAEC60@MW3PR12MB4346.namprd12.prod.outlook.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">There was a case filed that I believe was thrown out. Judge ruled that the landlord was not denied rent, just delayed in collecting it. Yeah right we will never see it. I think there is another case right now with Plaintiffs out of Yakima. Not sure the status of that. May have been brought in Federal Court.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: <a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> On Behalf Of K. Garl Long<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:07 AM<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Yes, where are the lawyers defending the right to contract? (Or, yea, my law professor said that somehow that disappeared from the constitution.)<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I?m curious if any of you LL/T gurus and/or real property litigators are considering filing some kind of action or class action on a constitutional takings basis? It seems to me that the government has turned private landlords into unwilling purveyors of public housing. All of these regulations/laws were hastily conceived and handed down by fiat. The result has been a tremendous and concentrated loss to private property owners. Perhaps it has to play out further? Have to wait to quantify the exact loss when the moratoriums end and you work through getting them out under all of these onerous ?drag it out? policies benefiting only tenants? We all know that deadbeat tenants are never going to pay up even a tiny fraction of what they owe. That is but a legal illusion of justice for the property owners.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">From: Timothy Lehr <<a ymailto="mailto:timothy@stileslaw.com" href="mailto:timothy@stileslaw.com">timothy@stileslaw.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 75, Issue 13<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I have a number of clients calling me wanting to file evictions on tenants who have not been effected by COVID. From my reading of the moratorium, nothing in the order actually states that the tenant must show that they have been effected by COVID. However, the "WHEREAS's" certainly list COVID as the reasoning behind the moratorium, but I still don't see any requirement that tenant has to prove anything. It reads as a blanket moratorium on evictions. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">Say your tenant is up to date on rent, but otherwise in default of their lease agreement. I don't see a way to evict under the order, aside from the exceptions for immediate and significant threats to health, safety or property of others OR LL's intent to sell or occupy.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Needless to say, I have real problems with the language of this order. Hopefully any extensions will actually address a tenant's burden to show they have been effected. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">There have been lawsuits filed against the Governor, most recently in Lewis County. The Washington Landlord Association joined as a party. Below is a link to their website which has a PDF of the complaint. I believe there are also complaints filed in King and Pierce Counties. I'm very interested to see how those play out. But, I agree with others that the moratorium will not be lifted anytime soon and there will likely be legislation to further increase tenant rights before the moratorium is lifted. I'm afraid legitimate evictions will be increasingly difficult to pursue from here on out. <br>
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