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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Agree with the comments that the WACs require parties to the gift, and not agent to sign, as allowed on the REET.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Why not record the POA?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Perhaps that would facilitate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>jbdolan@jbdolan.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 5, 2020 2:15 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] REET Supp. Excise tax statement can't be signed by P of A?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Skagit County has the same policy - an agent can sign a REETA but the Treasurer’s office requires the Grantor and Grantee to sign the Gift Supplement. If the underlying POA
gives the AIF/Agent authority to convey real property and the authority to make gifts, your client should be able to sign the Gift Supplement, IMHO, because, um, that’s what a POA is for. In my situation, the Grantor was available and competent to sign, so
I went and got her signature. (Sometimes it is easier to just lay on the floor of the cage and take the shocks.) If she had not been capable of signing, I guess I would have had to duke it out at the Treasurer’s office. If your Grantor is no longer able
to sign, perhaps trying speaking with someone in the excise department at DOR in Olympia would help?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Grant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 5, 2020 1:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] REET Supp. Excise tax statement can't be signed by P of A?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks Claudia that is helpful.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">458-61A-201(5)(a) The statement must be
<b>signed by both the grantor and the grantee.</b></span><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">That was probably meant only to say that the signing by one of the parties to a gift wasn’t sufficient to sign a Supp. statement.
Literally taken is being interpreted strictly.</span><b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">That is probably where they got that. It’s not worth the time to contest but my hunch is that “signed by the grantor” also means that a ‘grantor’ includes an
attorney in fact under the POA statute.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">This is a treasurer widely know to be difficult. Anyone recording gift deeds in Grant County are warned.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Wilbur, WA 99185<br>
509 647 5578</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Claudia A Gowan
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Re: [WSBARP] REET Supp. Excise tax
statement can't be signed by P of A?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi, Josh, it does seem odd. Maybe the County Treasurer is interpreting the rules strictly? The below clearly states that for REET purposes, the REETA can be signed
by an agent. However see 201(5)(a) below, the supplemental statement is to be signed by grantor and grantee. IMHO, the Treasurer’s office is interpreting the rules too strictly. Common sense suggests that the agent could also sign the supplemental statement
to the affidavit in compliance with the purposes of the chapter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">458-61A-102(1)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Definitions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>the purposes of chapter 458-61A WAC</b>, the following definitions apply unless the context requires otherwise:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(1) "Affidavit" means the real estate excise tax affidavit provided by the department for use by taxpayers in reporting transfers of real property.
<b>Both the seller/grantor and the buyer/grantee, or their agents, sign</b> the affidavit under penalty of perjury includes the form used to report to the department transfers and acquisitions of a controlling interest in an entity owning real property in this
state under WAC 458-61A-. The term also 101.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">458-61A-201(5)(a)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(5) Documentation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(a) A completed real estate excise tax affidavit is required for transfers by gift. A supplemental statement approved by the department must be completed and
attached to the affidavit. The supplemental statement will attest to the existence or absence of underlying debt on the property, whether the grantee has or will in the future make any payments on the debt, and whether a refinance of debt has occurred or is
planned to occur. The statement must be <b>signed by both the grantor and the grantee.<o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Best, Claudia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:ParkAvenue;color:#1F4E79">Claudia A. Gowan<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Grant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 05, 2020 11:51 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] REET Supp. Excise tax statement can't be signed by P of A?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">My client as P of A for her mom signed a gift deed for the grantor. County Treasurer returned everything including the supplemental statement REET form which accompanied
the gift deed . With the notation that a P of A can not sign the supplemental statement REET form !! Where did that come from? So a P of A can sign a deed conveying real property but can’t the supplemental statement REET form which just says it’s a gift
and there is no loan on the property. Seems odd to me.</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">(They also said the Auditor needed 2 checks one for the $10 on the REET form and the rest for the recording fee.)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#004080">Joshua F. Grant</span></strong><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#004080"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#004080">P. O. Box 619<br>
Wilbur, WA 99185<br>
509 647 5578</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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