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Only certain sections of the RLTA can be waived in a lease, even with the approval of the tenant’s lawyer. I do not believe RCW 59.18.310 that governs the tenant’s liability for payment after breaching the lease is included in the sections that can be waived.
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Considering how deviations in tenant protections under from RLLTA must be approved by a lawyer (or the prosecutor’s office), if I were landlord’s counsel, since this is a residential lease I would require the tenant have her owner counsel and have the tenant
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It would not be uncommon in a commercial setting to amortise the improvements over a shorter term. The LL gets back back faster, thereby reducing the risk of loss from a default later in the lease term. The new flooring is a material term and consideration
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How about increasing the total “rent” for the value of the flooring as agreed and include in the monthly rent over 10 years and then giving a monthly rebate for the amount to be forgiven.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<p class="">I'm not seeing that breaking the lease early would result in "damages" related to the new flooring in that presumably the house is worth more with the new flooring than without. Conversely, I'm also not seeing that the schedule you propose deals
with the actual harm possibly caused if the breach is late in the term. Assuming we're not talking about carpet, the floors should still be in good condition in 10 years, but what if it's been so damaged it needs to be replaced? Would this system prevent
any recovery for the landlord if the lease went to term and the tenant destroyed the floors?<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<p class="">Also, I'm having some "this is so bizarre it must be wrong" alarms going off. Seems like a really bad idea from both sides. First, I'd be very skeptical of any tenant willing to enter into such a contract. Second, assuming the property is encumbered,
would the landlord face liability to the tenant in the event of foreclosure? Third, if there were a breach would the landlord be able to actually recover for the breach. Stated differently, are they actually getting anything non-illusory for tying up their
property for 10 years? Fourth, if this property is in Seattle are they aware that in 2026 new legislation will provide that landlords will be tarred and feathered each time they collect rent? <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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I have a potential client, a landlord who is considering a 10-year residential lease in Seattle. Before the lease begins, landlord and tenant want to install new floors throughout the premises. Landlord proposes to pay for the costs of the floor installation.
Tenant, in theory, would agree to a liquidated damages clause where tenant reimburses landlord for some of the costs of the floor install in the event that the tenant breaks the lease early. The amount of damages would be a straight-line amortization over
the life of the lease. For example, if tenant breaks the lease in month 1, tenant would be responsible for 50% of damages. If tenant breaks the lease in month 120, tenant would not be responsible at all. Other than the typical limitations on liquidated damages
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