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Glad to see your post, this issue is coming up a lot in my realm, too. I just wrote a blog post addressing force majeure, which also addresses the commercial landlord-tenant context. </div>
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I agree with your framework. If interested, please see my comments in the above-link where I emphasize that economic hardship should not be confused with force majeure. </div>
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Decedent had executed a legacy trust providing for the annual distribution<br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] Retail Tenants and Commercial Frustration<br>
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This is probably coming up for many folks, especially with retail clients.<br>
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My initial legal framework for this is<br>
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Is there a force majeure clause in the lease?<br>
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Does the pandemic and/or its restrictions qualify for commercial frustration or impracticability of performance?<br>
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Does force majeure or commercial frustration/impracticability defense help the individual guarantors?<br>
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For handling this problem<br>
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Informal discussion with LL ? first step<br>
Formal mediation second ? 2nd<br>
Litigation or arbitration - 3rd<br>
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Does this seem sound? How strong is a commercial frustration or impracticability argument for this pandemic?<br>
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 20:02:22 -0700<br>
From: Roger Moss <ram@pacific-ci.com><br>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com>,<br>
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Andrew, I commend you for thinking holistically, creatively, and with an eye on using professional neutrals to navigate these issues in commercial leasing.<br>
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Here?s my template:<br>
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1. The moratoria operating in many jurisdictions covering residential and commercial scenarios alike are first and foremost a call for tenants and landlords to slow down, avoid precipitous action, take stock of circumstances, and work on solutions together.
With rare exceptions they point to rent deferment not abatement; it has amazed me to see how confusion there is on that point.<br>
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2. For commercial leases, I point to force majeure clauses and especially destruction of premises provisions (particularly in retail) as themes to organize conversation - for over 100 years, rent abatement has been an accepted remedy when external forces make
retail spaces unusable. I do not hold that these provisions can be applied legally to the pandemic, but I have gotten people talking productively by reminding them the idea is sound. It is an industry practice.<br>
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3. Innovative mediated approaches guided by a leasing expert should be deployed as early as possible, when they can deliver the most value.
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There is a cohort of specially trained mediators working on these issues in California and the Northwest including in BC. Let me know if you?d like to be connected with them. We have also been doing presentations on best practices for tenants and landlords
in addressing commercial leasing tensions and disputes animated by COVID. All the work is being done quickly, and entirely online which is standard practice for those of us involved.<br>
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Thank you Andrew for your thoughtful posting.<br>
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> On Apr 22, 2020, at 7:02 PM, Andrew Hay <andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> This is probably coming up for many folks, especially with retail clients.<br>
> <br>
> My initial legal framework for this is<br>
> <br>
> Is there a force majeure clause in the lease?<br>
> <br>
> Does the pandemic and/or its restrictions qualify for commercial frustration or impracticability of performance?<br>
> <br>
> Does force majeure or commercial frustration/impracticability defense help the individual guarantors?<br>
> <br>
> For handling this problem<br>
> <br>
> Informal discussion with LL ? first step<br>
> Formal mediation second ? 2nd<br>
> Litigation or arbitration - 3rd<br>
> <br>
> Does this seem sound? How strong is a commercial frustration or impracticability argument for this pandemic?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Andrew Hay<br>
> Hay & Swann PLLC<br>
> 201 S. 34th St.<br>
> Tacoma, WA 98418<br>
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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 10:15:27 -0700<br>
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PC was divorced from wife last year. The judgment or decree allowed one<br>
spouse to reside and pay rent/ expenses and one PC can refinance and buy out<br>
the former spouse for 40% of the net value. They agreed on a set amount for<br>
buyout. I just want to confirm that WAC 458-61A-203 exempts this from Excise<br>
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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 17:50:16 +0000<br>
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Yes, provided the transfer is as agreed upon in a settlement agreement or decree of dissolution, you can cite WAC 458-61A-203 and put the explanation in the comments. A certified copy of the decree is not necessary. (In contrast, for transfers under a probated
will, for example, you must submit a certified copy of the letters testamentary, which requirement is specifically stated in the WAC.)<br>
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From: <wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> on behalf of "nestor@pplsweb.com" <nestor@pplsweb.com><br>
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Date: Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 10:18 AM<br>
To: 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
Subject: [WSBARP] Excise tax Dissolution<br>
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PC was divorced from wife last year. The judgment or decree allowed one spouse to reside and pay rent/ expenses and one PC can refinance and buy out the former spouse for 40% of the net value. They agreed on a set amount for buyout. I just want to confirm that
WAC 458-61A-203 exempts this from Excise tax, and if so do we need to file a certified copy of the Divorce Order or just refer to it in the comments of the REETA.<br>
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