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<p class="MsoNormal">No, I got convinced by someone with a lot of experience in foreclosures, and also noting that the language in
<a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=61.24.050">RCW 61.24.050(1)</a> was likely drafted with the common law rules in mind:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">...the trustee's deed shall convey
<b>all of the right, title, and interest</b> in the real and personal property sold at the trustee's sale
<b>which the grantor had</b> or had the power to convey <b>at the time of the execution of the deed of trust</b>, and such as the grantor may have thereafter acquired.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since it's explicit in the DOT foreclosure statute, I can't imagine that the mortgage foreclosure rule is any weaker in its protection of the secured interest holder.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Hi Eric, did you find a specific case that changed your mind?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:28 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kary, your view is the one supported by law. I was thinking there was could be an arguable distinction between creation of an easement and destruction of one. My view, which is not supported, started from the conceptual point that collateral
can be destroyed and the lender can't just resurrect destroyed property by foreclosing. For example, if the loan is on a car that is wrecked and then dismantled for scrap; or a mortgaged house that burns down.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">By that logic, I suggested that if a landowner could "destroy" an easement by extinguishing it, then it's gone and a foreclosure of a security interest can't bring it back. But clearly since an easement is completely a creature of law and
has no physical existence analogous to a car or a house, the law can say what it wants about when and how it is truly destroyed or extinguished—or revived.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I'm not seeing how this is any different than the inverse, creating an easement on property that is subject to an existing mortgage without the mortgagee's consent. Is there any question that in that situation the foreclosure of the mortgage would wipe
out the new easement? In this other situation you still have three parties and the act of two not being able to adversely affect the third.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Make the hypothetical more extreme. The easement was an access easement to the property, but not a necessary easement. An access road could be built to an adjacent road, but due to topography the road would be expensive, thereby greatly reducing the value
of the encumbered property.<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Kary L. Krismer<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 4/17/2020 4:14 PM, Eric Nelsen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For anyone following this thread—I've been convinced at this point that the security interest can effectively "revive" the easement upon foreclosure, because the bundle of ownership and appurtenant rights that are encumbered is essentially
frozen at the time of executing the mortgage or DOT. So if the borrower extinguishes an easement that benefits the encumbered property, the extinguishment is effective
<i>between the neighbors</i>, but it does not extinguish the <i>lender's</i> contingent right to foreclose on the easement along with the benefitted property. In order for the neighbor to fully extinguish the easement, the neighbor would need both the benefitted
owner's consent, and the benefitted owner's lender's consent.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So my argument below isn't right. Oh, well. Have a good weekend everyone--<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 17, 2020 3:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree that mechanically the sheriff's deed or the trustee's deed is likely to list the easement. But if the easement was previously extinguished, I would argue that the deed cannot re-create the easement, because the Deed of Trust can't
have a security interest in, or foreclose on, something that doesn't exist. But I guess that also begs the question—I don't know that an extinguishment of an easement, executed by the owner of the encumbered property, is effective. I really think it should
be, but I have nothing to back up my opinion.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If I could rephrase the problem: We generally think of mortgages and DOTs as being secured by land, a chunk of dirt that always exists and always will exist. It can be transferred to someone else but it's easy enough to envision that the
security interest "stays" with the land even if the ownership changes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But an easement can be "destroyed" by extinguishment in a way that dirt can't. An easement isn't a fee interest and by definition has to be situated
<i>outside</i> the boundaries of the dirt that is the main focus of the security interest. The owner of land benefitted by an easement has, so far as I am aware, a unilateral and unlimited right to extinguish an easement that benefits the owner's property.
It's not a transfer away, it's a cancellation. And once it's cancelled, there is no easement for the security interest to attach to.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If I understand the question properly, the proposition I think you are looking for is this -- the person auctioning the mortgaged interest, whether a sheriff or trustee, gives the purchaser a deed to that precise
interest. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So, here, the buyer at the foreclosure would acquire the mortgaged interest, to include the easement.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This is how, mechanically, junior encumbrances are extinguished by senior lien sales.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 17, 2020 2:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A philosophical question:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">B owns Blackacre, which has an easement appurtenant for a driveway across Whiteacre, owned by W.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">B has a loan, secured by DOT on Blackacre. The DOT's legal description says it covers "Parcel A: Blackacre and Parcel B: Easement for driveway over Whiteacre."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">W and B execute a document extinguishing the driveway easement over Whiteacre. So, the easement no longer exists.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Then B's lender forecloses on its DOT.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The question: Can the foreclosure "recreate" the easement over Whiteacre? In other words, was the earlier instrument extinguishing the easement ineffective because of the security interest, so that when the lender forecloses on "Blackacre
plus easement over Whiteacre," the easement springs back into being?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Related question: Same result if the DOT's legal description just said "Blackacre" and didn't mention the easement appurtenant? Regardless of whether or not an easement appurtenant is mentioned in a deed, it travels with the benefitted
land.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></p>
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