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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>See SENATE BILL 5641 going into effect 10/1/2020. I can tell you from first hand expereince that since it came into effect 1/1/2020 in Florida it has been successful. I know that some Lenders or Parties are still resisting the use but they will come around and see the value especially in light of our current circumstances.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Licensed in Washington & Florida<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by the sender.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#009900'>P</span></b><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;color:#009900'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#009900'>Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=Default><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kary Krismer<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 20, 2020 6:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] RON -<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>I saw that federal legislation yesterday. RON is what I referred to yesterday as something I wasn't crazy about being used today in Washington. I think the argument that this 2017 act authorized it is flimsy, but not necessarily frivolous.<o:p></o:p></p><p><a href="http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2017-18/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/Senate/5081-S.SL.pdf?cite=2017%20c%20281%20%C2%A7%2011.">http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2017-18/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/Senate/5081-S.SL.pdf?cite=2017%20c%20281%20%C2%A7%2011.</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>If you read through it, it does recognize notary acts from other states, but another section requires the signing party to be physically present with the notary, without mentioning any exceptions. I'm just not seeing that that 2017 act authorized remote notary from other states, absent at least a greater connection to that other state (e.g. the signer was also in Virginia, as was the remote notary). Add in the fact that in 2019 the state did pass legislation on remote notary (effective Oct 1, 2020) and the argument regarding the 2017 legislation becomes even weaker.<o:p></o:p></p><p>My position on this has been if a bank wants to accept remote notary on deeds of trust, fine, but my buyers' P&S contracts typically have provisions prohibiting remote notary on their conveyance deeds to them. The difference is a deed of trust is temporary, where a deed continues on after a later sale if the sale is by warranty deed. Also, the loss on a deed of trust should be covered by the lender's policy (assuming the title company stays solvent), where a loss on a deed might not be fully covered due to market appreciation. <o:p></o:p></p><p>That said, I hope this federal RON legislation passes, and quickly. It is needed due to this crisis. Remote notaries (those who go to the signer's homes) right now are one of the groups on the front lines, like retail clerks.<o:p></o:p></p><pre>Kary L. Krismer<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>John L. Scott, Inc. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>206 723-2148<o:p></o:p></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 3/19/2020 6:54 PM, <a href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>I just got this from the American Land Title Association:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://lists.altalists.org/t/677415/2746850/22403/5/" target="_blank"><b>Senators Introduce ALTA-supported Federal RON Bill</b></a><br>U.S. Senators Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) and Mark Warner (D-Va.) introduced on Wednesday the Securing and Enabling Commerce Using Remote and Electronic Notarization Act of 2020, which permits immediate nationwide use of remote online notarization (RON) with minimum standards and provide certainty for the interstate recognition of RON. While RON won't be available for every transaction, it does provide another closing option in some circumstances. "With the need for social distancing to help prevent the spread of the virus, we want to provide options to consumers to close their transaction remotely nationwide," said Diane Tomb, ALTA's chief executive officer. "The strong standards in this bill are important to prevent fraud and offer consumers a more secure alternative rather than FaceTime or Skype when buying property or refinancing a mortgage."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Licensed in Washington & Florida</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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