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    <p>I haven't practiced in over 12 years, and not at all under the
      current Act, but for property that is not the debtor's residence I
      don't see why they couldn't deal with both the secured and
      unsecured claim of a deed of trust in a Chapter 13 plan.  If the
      mortgagee didn't object I think they may be out of luck</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/4/2019 12:21 PM, Doug Owens
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      Dear Greg, I believe that is nonsense.  A deed of trust cannot be
      “avoided” or eliminated through bankruptcy.  Perhaps your clients
      should attend the creditors’ meeting and talk to the trustee.  I
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