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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think every title company would require what we call a “Lack of Probate Affidavit” before vesting title in the surviving spouse. On the lack of probate affidavit the surviving spouse is required to disclose whether the deceased had a will, and if so, we require a copy of the will for our review. If the will leaves the property to someone other than the surviving spouse we require a disposition of that party’s interest.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>But, somewhat contrary to your statement, the interest acquired by “A and B, husband and wife” is presumed by law to be community property, not TIC. <a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?Cite=26.16.030">RCW 26.16.030</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>John McCrady<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Counsel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Puget Sound Title Company<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>5350 Orchard Street West<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>University Place WA 98467<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>253-476-5721<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>j.mccrady@pstitle.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Vohr<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 11, 2019 5:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] TIC or JTWROS?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>I have a title person in Jefferson county telling me it’s common practice in title companies when property is acquired as “husband and wife” (the type of ownership – TIC or JTWROS is not indicated in the deed) to pass the ownership to the surviving spouse without any kind of conveyance since Washington is a community property state, all they require is proof of death of the spouse. Title has always done this, we’ve used death certificates, lack of probate affidavit’s or actual probates as proof of death of the spouse and then just vest the ownership in the surviving spouse.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>My understanding is that a transfer to H&W (or any conveyance to more than one person) without indicating the type of ownership creates a tenancy in common, RCW 64.28.020. In our case the decedent left his entire estate in trust for his surviving spouse, which I would conclude would include his TIC share in real property. Title transferred it all to the surviving spouse. It would seem we have to claw it back. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Thoughts? Thanks in advance. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='margin-left:8.6pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=140 valign=top style='width:130.5pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC"'>Ohana Fiduciary Corp.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC"'>A Washington Trust Company<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=556 valign=top style='width:7.5in;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC"'>Mark C. 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