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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Mark:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I agree, TIC. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">When in doubt I check with David Lawson at Chicago Title.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Vohr<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jerry Krane; Catherine McCarthy<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] TIC or JTWROS?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Thanks Josh – We opened a probate – and then found our about the transfer. The Will leave the decedent’s entire estate in a marital trust. I agree with you – the interest is a TIC and
I think the title company was wrong to have transferred the interest, apparently “automatically” to the surviving spouse.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Regards,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mark C. Vohr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Ohana Fiduciary Corp.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Ohana Financial Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">A Washington Trust Company<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Mark C. Vohr, J.D., CPG, Principal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">PO Box 33710 Seattle, WA 98133<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">T: (206) 782-1189 F: (206) 782-1434<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Grant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] TIC or JTWROS?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black">I would think just sending a copy of the will would fix it. You don’t say if a probate was filed or in what manner it was “left his estate to SS), but I assume it was in a LW&T?</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> [WSBARP] TIC or JTWROS?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black">I have a title person in Jefferson county telling me it’s common practice in title companies when property is acquired as “husband and wife” (the type of ownership – TIC or
JTWROS is not indicated in the deed) to pass the ownership to the surviving spouse without any kind of conveyance since Washington is a community property state, all they require is proof of death of the spouse. Title has always done this, we’ve used death
certificates, lack of probate affidavit’s or actual probates as proof of death of the spouse and then just vest the ownership in the surviving spouse.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black">My understanding is that a transfer to H&W (or any conveyance to more than one person) without indicating the type of ownership creates a tenancy in common, RCW 64.28.020.
In our case the decedent left his entire estate in trust for his surviving spouse, which I would conclude would include his TIC share in real property. Title transferred it all to the surviving spouse. It would seem we have to claw it back.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black">Thoughts? Thanks in advance.
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