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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As an aside, does anyone have experience with financing of condos under the new Common Interest Ownership statute? In particular does the new 6 yr SL of limitations for assessments scare them? TIA, Cy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cyrus W. 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Market Blvd. #202, Chehalis, WA 98532<br><b>Olympia/Lacey office: </b>1415 College Street SE, Lacey, WA 98503</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#660000;background:white'>Seattle office: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#660000;background:white'>1001 4th Avenue, Suite 3200, Seattle, WA 98154</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#660000;background:white'><br>We also offer virtual meeting options, and are often available to meet with you in an alternate location convenient to you.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#444444'>Privileged and confidential: </span></b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#444444'>This message is confidential. 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Per <a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.34&full=true#64.34.010" target="_blank">RCW 64.34.010(1)</a>, the lien provisions of the 1990 Act, <a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.34&full=true#64.34.364" target="_blank">RCW 64.34.364</a>, apply to this condo.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>RCW 64.34.364 has a 3-year statute of limitations on back dues:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>(8) A lien for unpaid assessments and the personal liability for payment of assessments is extinguished unless proceedings to enforce the lien or collect the debt are instituted within <b><i>three years</i></b> after the amount of the assessments sought to be recovered becomes due.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>But it also has this, which says "all" unpaid dues:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>(12) ....<b><i>In a voluntary conveyance</i></b>, the grantee of a unit shall be jointly and severally liable with the grantor for <b><i>all</i></b> unpaid assessments against the grantor up to the time of the grantor's conveyance....<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>In this context, "all" just means the most recent three years of dues, because collection of the older dues is barred by statute of limitations, right? Section 12 can't possibly mean that in a voluntary conveyance the statute of limitations under (8) does not apply?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>[Note--it looks like the statute of limitations is changed to six years under the new UCIOA, <a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90&full=true#64.90.485" target="_blank">RCW 64.90.485(9)</a>. But the "all" language is carried over into the new act as well, RCW 64.90.485(17).]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>Eric<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'>Eric C. 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