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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you to all who responded. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Licensed in Washington & Florida<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. 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Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by the sender.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#009900'>P</span></b><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;color:#009900'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#009900'>Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Schoolbook",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kate Love<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2019 12:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] PC who does not want to probate<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So, I too wanted to know precisely how one would go about accomplishing this, and as I recently to be in communication with the manager at the Chicago title unit in Seattle, I called them back up, posed your question and below are the <i>general steps</i> recommended by Chicago for a situation like this:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-15.6pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>File the Will in the superior court of the county of the real property, officer said they don’t require a probate, <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-15.6pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Prepare a lack of probate affidavit for both deaths – the form above has two versions – a longer one for title’s internal use and a shorter one for recording,<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-15.6pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Record both affidavits with the deed from daughter/sister to son/brother, and <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-15.6pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Record the death certs of both Mother and Father at the same time<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Obviously, this is a general recommendation, if you want the title officer’s info, just email me at <a href="mailto:katel@law-hawks.com">katel@law-hawks.com</a> <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😉</span> Kate<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Hay<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2019 11:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] PC who does not want to probate<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks Kate. Don’t we still need some way to get the will in the public record? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>Andrew Hay<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>Hay & Swann PLLC</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>201 South 34th Street<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>Tacoma, WA 98418<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>Phone: (253) 272-2400<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>Fax: (253) 267-8947<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net/"><span style='color:black'>www.washingtonlaw.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENT ONLY. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS COMMUNICATION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY THE SENDER IMMEDIATELY AND DESTROY ALL COPIES</span></b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kate Love<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2019 10:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] PC who does not want to probate<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:white'>There are probably other authorities for the immediate passage of title to real property on death with a will, but <i>In re </i></span><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>Jones, </span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>152 Wn.2d 1, 152 Wn.2d 1 at page 12 is</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:white'> a good one: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>“Under </span><a href="https://www.casemakerlegal.com/SearchResult.aspx?searchFields%5bstate%5d=&query=RCW+11.04.250&searchCriteria=CodeSec&tabAction=ALLC&dtypeName=&headAdmin=&headCaselaw=&headStatutes=&searchType=overview&jurisdictions.allStates=on&jurisdictions.includeRelatedFederal=on&showdirectdoc=yes&insession=no&onlyone=yes"><b><span style='font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;background:white;text-decoration:none'>RCW 11.04.250</span></b></a></i><i><span style='font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>, the title to land vests to devisees at the time of the devisor's death.”<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>😉😉</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'> Kate<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Hay<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2019 9:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] PC who does not want to probate<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>How does title get from Dad to the sister without some validation of the will?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>Andrew Hay<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>Hay & Swann PLLC</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>201 South 34th Street<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>Tacoma, WA 98418<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>Phone: (253) 272-2400<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'>Fax: (253) 267-8947<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.washingtonlaw.net/"><span style='color:black'>www.washingtonlaw.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>THIS IS A CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION AND IS INTENDED FOR THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENT ONLY. 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You would need a lack of probate affidavit for the death of Mom to put record title in Dad (provided there was no probate.) Title passes on death of Dad to Sister and the lack of probate affidavit evidences that. The deed passes title from Sister to Brother, and should be excise tax exempt provided there is no debt.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>John McCrady<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Counsel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Puget Sound Title Company<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>5350 Orchard Street West<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>University Place WA 98467<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>253-476-5721<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:j.mccrady@pstitle.com">j.mccrady@pstitle.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 25, 2019 5:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] PC who does not want to probate<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have a PC. Title in Mom and Dad. Mom passed away several years ago and Dad just passed away. PC wants the property transferred to him without probate. His sister is OK with that. The will leaves the property to sister. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Can we transfer with a Lack of Probate Affidavit and a deed from Sister to Brother?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Licensed in Washington & Florida<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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