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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for the articles and providing me with food for thought. Very informative.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Licensed in Washington & Florida<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by the sender.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#009900'>P</span></b><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;color:#009900'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#009900'>Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Schoolbook",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>G. Geoffrey Gibbs<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 8, 2019 7:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] FW: [WSBAPT] Survey Questions<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I would encourage those who would like information the subject of bifurcation to read the two articles in today’s ABA newsletter. They are more detailed and lengthy than most of the articles in the ABA weekly missive and cover a lot of the issues now facing the WSBA as they consider hot to move into the future. GGG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><a href="http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/1-year-after-californias-state-bar-became-2-entities-observers-see-positive-changes/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email">http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/1-year-after-californias-state-bar-became-2-entities-observers-see-positive-changes/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><a href="http://www.abajournal.com/voice/article/the-case-for-bar-associations/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email">http://www.abajournal.com/voice/article/the-case-for-bar-associations/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly_email</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>G. Geoffrey Gibbs | Anderson Hunter Law Firm</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <br><span style='color:black'>2707 Colby Avenue, Ste. 1001 Everett, WA 98201<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>PO Box 5397, Everett, WA 98206-5397 <br><span style='color:black'>Phone: (425) 252-5161 | Fax: (425) 258-3345</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:ggibbs@andersonhunterlaw.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>ggibbs@andersonhunterlaw.com</span></a> / <a href="http://www.andersonhunterlaw.com/">www.andersonhunterlaw.com</a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=114 height=36 style='width:1.1875in;height:.375in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D4C779.2CB1B140" alt="Description: Description: AH Color Large-no-tag"></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>This email message may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized use is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.</span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 7, 2019 5:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] FW: [WSBAPT] Survey Questions<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t understand why there is a need for a bifurcated bar. I envision that all this would do is increase redundancy and more levels of bureaucracy and of course higher fees.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Licensed in Washington & Florida<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. 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Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by the sender.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#009900'>P</span></b><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;color:#009900'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#009900'>Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Schoolbook",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Teunis J. Wyers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:REALPROP@yahoogroups.com">REALPROP@yahoogroups.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Survey Questions<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>This survey also asks if the respondents support bifurcation of the bar. Upon what information would we base such an opinion?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>What usefulness could such a limited survey have, for any of us?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:38 PM Mike Winslow <<a href="mailto:mike@winslegal.com">mike@winslegal.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Today the WSBA sent out a survey regarding a bifurcated bar, in light of recent doings by the Supremes. The issue is how to support the sections like RPPT if the bar association is bifurcated into essential and non-essential functions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The survey asks six questions about bifurcation, including how to fund it. Question 5 asks if you would be willing to pay more dues <i>to both</i> the mandatory Bar and the Section if bifurcation takes place. There was only a “yes” or “no” option and this was the only question directed to supporting a dues increase to support continued RPPT Section activities. Nothing about be willing to pay more dues to support the RPPT Section, but limiting dues for mandatory WSBA. So if one answers “yes” it will appear that you support dues increases for <b>both </b>the voluntary Section and the mandatory bar.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Following completion of the survey, I contacted a member of the RPPT Executive Committee to express my concern about the wording of the survey. They replied that the Section had submitted a draft survey to the WSBA, <u>but then revised and resubmitted</u>. Instead of sending out the revised survey, which was intended to glean more detail and provide more options for answers, the WSBA sent out the original unrevised survey. So even though the survey says it is from “Executive Committee of RPPT”, it was actually sent out by the WSBA in the more limited form. My take from the response was that the WSBA ignored the request of Executive Committee to use the revised survey.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Just reporting the facts. Draw your own conclusions about what is going on downtown at 1325 Fourth Ave., Suite 600, Seattle, WA 98101-2539.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Michael A. 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