<div dir="ltr"><font size="4">This sounds good.</font><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Do the heirs need only certified and regular mail as "notice" or do we have to serve them with process?</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Jim</font></div><div><font size="4"><br clear="all"></font><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>James R. Doran<br></div>Attorney at Law<br></div>100 E. Pine Street - Suite 205<br></div>Bellingham, WA 98225<br>(360)393-9506<br></div><a href="mailto:jim@doranlegal.com" target="_blank">jim@doranlegal.com</a><br></div><a href="http://www.doranlegal.com" target="_blank">www.doranlegal.com</a><br></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:25 AM Rob Wilson-Hoss <<a href="mailto:rob@hctc.com">rob@hctc.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-2268588005337338077WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">I learned a long time ago that it is usually a very good idea to notice everyone who might under any circumstances be entitled to or interested in notice, and set it for a hearing, and see what happens. Almost always, nothing, and the commissioner is happy to see you gave everyone notice. Sometimes someone shows up, and that works too, because (1) you get a chance to talk to them and maybe explain things that might make their issues go away; or (2) you get an early view of the dispute you are going to have to deal with and so you get an early chance to strategize around it. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Rob <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Robert D. 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You have the right to seek advice of legal counsel.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Doran<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 30, 2018 10:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Personal Representative<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Thank you all. I appreciate this website listserve very much. Remember the old days? </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Jim Doran</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><br clear="all"></span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">James R. Doran<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Attorney at Law<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">100 E. Pine Street - Suite 205<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Bellingham, WA 98225<br>(360)393-9506<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:jim@doranlegal.com" target="_blank">jim@doranlegal.com</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.doranlegal.com" target="_blank">www.doranlegal.com</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:03 PM Brandyn Miller <<a href="mailto:brandyndmiller@comcast.net" target="_blank">brandyndmiller@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Good afternoon!</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">For an Administration in which you want to get your Administrator appointed with NIP, and you don’t have the prior written approval of all heirs, you have to note it up for a hearing on the petition to appoint the Adm and send notices ahead of time to all heirs telling them about the hearing. You send the NMD, a Notice of the Hearing on the Petition, and the Petition and proposed Order. If that obstreperous sibling wants to show up to the hearing and object, she/he can. If nobody shows up and objects, the court will likely grant your petition (barring any oddities). </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This hearing process can also apply even if you are opening a probate and the will names the PR you are trying to appoint, if there are extenuating circumstances (for example when trying to admit a copy of a lost will or trying to admit a marked-up will).</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I have only done a few of these (all in King County), so I’m sure others can offer better advice, but I hope this is helpful for starters.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Good luck!</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Brandyn D. Miller</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Counselor at Law</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">206-633-4114</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:brandyndmiller@comcast.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0563c1">brandyndmiller@comcast.net</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">221 NW 48th St. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Seattle, WA 98107 </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This communication may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or believe that you may have received this communication in error, please reply to the sender indicating that fact and delete the copy you received. In addition, you should not print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the information contained herein.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Doran<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 29, 2018 5:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Personal Representative</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">They say "no question is a dumb question" but....</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Most of the probates I have done the heirs have agreed upon the appointment of the Personal Representative and I go to get the letters of Administration with signed stipulations for the appointment.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">If it is known by my client that there will be objections to his appointment by a obstreperous sibling, what are we obligated to do? Do we get the PR appointed with a standard Petition and then give the typical notices that gives the objecting heir an opportunity to come to court to object and plead their case? Is it as simple as that?</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Jim Doran</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> </span><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">James R. Doran<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Attorney at Law<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">100 E. Pine Street - Suite 205<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Bellingham, WA 98225<br>(360)393-9506<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:jim@doranlegal.com" target="_blank">jim@doranlegal.com</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.doranlegal.com" target="_blank">www.doranlegal.com</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>WSBARP mailing list<br><a href="mailto:WSBARP@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">WSBARP@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div><div id="m_-2268588005337338077DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2">
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