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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I just had this issue come up in a probate where I used the legal description from 6 previously filed deeds, including PR and gifting deeds from parent’s estates from 15 years ago. While legal description included Lot and name of short plat and county, it was missing book and page number of plat. Fixing old deeds would have required re-opening old probates in King county, new REETS and fees. I spoke to local title officer who said (at the moment anyways), they would insure title under that situation. After talking to client, we decided to take no further action at this time but when we transfer her beneficial interest to her RLT we’ll use full legal description.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Which raises an un- related issue: short of a TEDRA agreement, what does a PR need to deed strait to beneficiary’s RLT? The few times beneficiary has had a RLT, I’ve used a 2 step process but I wonder if that is really necessary. Thanks in advance, Cy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cyrus W. Field, Attorney at Law (admitted in Washington and Oregon)<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:#1F497D'>phone: 360-472-1223 Mail: POB 367, Shaw Island, WA 98286 Office: 640 Mullis St. Friday Harbor, WA</span></i><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'>******************************************************************<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The information contained in this e-mail message, including attachments, may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender at cyfield@rockisland.com and destroy or delete the original and any copies. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bickel, Dwight<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 08, 2018 10:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Who signs a corrected quit claim deed?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kary – You are wise. The “scrivener’s error” theory that a document can be changed without requiring a signature (or initial) of the grantor PLUS a new acknowledgement is very, very limited. It has to be a patent error, which means you can see from the erroneous document that there was an error. It has to be in the legal chain of title without the correction. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>A “</span>typographical error of the legal description<span style='color:#1F497D'>” can be a scrivener’s error that can be corrected by a new corrected recording that is done by the title company. An obvious misspelling of words is clearly a scrivenor’s error, which probably does not need correcting at all. A call to go “12.7 feet to a pint on the Wset lin of the secshun” is an example. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>However, a mistaken lot number is also a typographical error [lot 4 was intended but Lot 40 is on the deed]. Often that cannot be corrected without a grantor signature and acknowledgement. Lot 40 of a 4-lot short plat is a patent error. But if there is both a lot 4 and 40, then the error is not patent. If the grantor also owns Lot 40, then the mistake is latent and not a scrivener’s error that can be done without a new grantor signature and acknowledgement. There is no indication on the incorrect document that Lot 40 is an error.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>A typo to the grantee’s spelling of the name is an easy and clear scrivener’s error. But a significant error on the grantor’s spelling means that the deed is not in the legal chain of title. Our chain of title is based on a grantor-grantee name search. A deed from Schmitz is not in the chain of title from Schmidt. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>A typo on the name of the subdivision can be a scrivener’s error if there is no other plat of that name. A call in a legal description to go 1.27’ feet to a point on the west line of the subdivision is a scrivener’s error if it is 12.7’ feet to that point. But a call in a legal description to go East instead of West probably puts that outside the chain of title. Clearly not possible if the grantor owns the mistaken land too. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Too many people think that a new recording can done of an altered deed without a new acknowledgment. Even if a title company uses the scrivener’s error theory and insures validity, a wise and appropriately conservative real property lawyer might want a new document with a new grantor signature and acknowledgement. Getting the document recorded does not mean it is in the legal chain of title. Getting the document recorded does not ensure it will withstand a Statute of Frauds challenge.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:black' align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. 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