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<DIV><FONT size=4>Thanks Rob. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #004080">Joshua F.
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=rob@hctc.com
href="mailto:rob@hctc.com">Rob Wilson-Hoss</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 28, 2018 12:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com
href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">'WSBA Real Property Listserv'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBARP] HOA fine administration and
grandfathering</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Josh, you have two things. One
is a (presumably) covenant violation for failure to complete within two years.
My reaction to that is OK, it is finished now, so no damages, no injunction, no
cause of action, but the association should figure out how to deal with these in
the future.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">The second thing you have is,
yep, the association figured out a way to deal with these in the future - the
new fine schedule. But it wants to include matters that are arguably not under
the fine rule scope because it was started before the fine rule was passed. The
Board has nowhere to go with this. A fine is only as good as the end result,
which is, a lawsuit to collect the fine (often by lien foreclosure). And here,
that is a nonstarter.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">My advice to the Board would be
to graciously declare victory, note that after the rule was passed this member
complied, and apply it to future circumstances. Not a fight they want to pick.
Better to address current ongoing problems with their time and money.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">I like to put into my
resolutions an effective date to resolve some of this. And the effective date is
almost always, applies to circumstances that arise after the date of
recordation. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">By the way, and forgive an old
man's pontification, but I tell all my clients that they never want to collect
any fines. First you try to work with the member, several times, and use someone
with a high emotional IQ for the contacts. If that just doesn't work you can
fine, but the purpose of the fine is to bring them to the table and use it as a
card you can throw in- OK, if you fix this problem within a reasonable time, we
will rescind the fine. Leverage. Very rarely will you have to go beyond that,
and if that happens, you have other issues to deal with, such as "personality"
challenges. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Rob<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Robert
D. Wilson-Hoss <BR>Hoss & Wilson-Hoss, LLP <BR>236 West Birch Street
<BR>Shelton, WA 98584 <BR>360 426-2999<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Josh Grant<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 28, 2018 11:55
AM<BR><B>To:</B> wsbar<BR><B>Subject:</B> [WSBARP] HOA fine administration and
grandfathering<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><A name=ole_link2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">I represent an HOA which has levied a fine
that is being questioned.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></A></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><A name=ole_link1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">Violation is for failing to complete
structure within 24 months of its commencement.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></A></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">Building started
4/2015.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">Fine policy was
adopted 3/2016. Objecting homebuilder was on the board and voted for
it.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">This seems
similar to a building permit that a city grants and the fact that the building
code that applies is its version as of the date the permit is
granted.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">Objector says “I
started before the fine procedure was set up so I am grandfathered in and I
can’t be fined.”</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">The facts would
show that the project was completed well after 2 years even after the fine
procedures were adopted, so Board wonders if, even though the building was
commenced before that adoption date, that the 2 year requirement could be
enforced after the 2 years from date of adoption.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black">What say
you?</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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F. Grant</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN
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