<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'>Craig,
<div> Regarding your footpath case, read Roediger v. Cullen, 26 Wash2d 690. The facts are pretty close to yours and would suggest there is not a prescriptive easement. The idea of neighborly courtesies has been developed more in recent years and the courts seem to be quicker to adopt that than they used to. Also, look at Gamboa v Clark, 183 Wash2d 38, which discusses Roediger. I think most attorneys would have thought under the facts of that case, a prescriptive easement would have been found, but not so. It is a pretty thorough analysis.</div>
<div> Given the risks when you ask for a restraining order, which would have to be in a quiet title action, that may not be a good move. The other side can get damages if the court ultimately determines it should not have issued.</div>
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Listmates, We are wondering if anyone could share their experience with restraining orders to allow continued use of an easement. Short story is good client has a valid proscriptive easement ( meets all the criteria) over a path they have used since 1940. Bad client bought the burdened property a couple years ago and has now forbidden good client to access the beach over the path. Altercations have been both verbal and physical assault so we have grounds for a protective order but we would like to include an order to keep status quo allowing path use until we can get a hearing on merits of the easement. Good client has a family reunion this weekend which would include use of the beach. No alternative way to access the water. Any insight or experience would be appreciated! Tom Hause in our office is handling the case so if you are contacting directly, his e-mail is <a href="mailto:tom@glgmail.com">tom@glgmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:tom@glgmail.com?">mailto:tom@glgmail.com</a>> Thanks in advance for any insight!!<br>
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I have had good luck recently before the Snohomish County Court Commissioners in getting a Temporary Restraining Order and a very low bond attached. The issue involved the defendant removing personal property from a building. Then in superior court before the Motions calendar the Preliminary Injunction must be obtained and granted by the Judge. The courts like to keep the status quo until all issues can be determined by a Judge and if there is any threat of violence the court will do what needs to be done to attempt to prevent it. It sounds like you have a good case for a TRO and preliminary injunction.<br>
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Listmates, We are wondering if anyone could share their experience with restraining orders to allow continued use of an easement. Short story is good client has a valid proscriptive easement ( meets all the criteria) over a path they have used since 1940. Bad client bought the burdened property a couple years ago and has now forbidden good client to access the beach over the path. Altercations have been both verbal and physical assault so we have grounds for a protective order but we would like to include an order to keep status quo allowing path use until we can get a hearing on merits of the easement. Good client has a family reunion this weekend which would include use of the beach. No alternative way to access the water. Any insight or experience would be appreciated! Tom Hause in our office is handling the case so if you are contacting directly, his e-mail is <a href="mailto:tom@glgmail.com">tom@glgmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:tom@glgmail.com?">mailto:tom@glgmail.com</a>> Thanks in advance for any insight!!<br>
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Snohomish Escrow<br>
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If the spouse was awarded the property in the disso action, then a partition action is no longer possible as the parties are not tenants in common. That is probably a good thing as the court in the disso action has a lot more equitable discretion than a court would have in a partition action. Partition actions can also be very risky, assuming you cannot partition in kind. Under the statutes, it goes up for public sale(although some courts are allowing it to be a normal market sale). It then goes up for bid and if your client does not have the funds to bid, the client is very vulnerable. I do not do disso work, but used to years ago. I think you just get the thing before the court and ask the court to have it sold. Allowing the spouse who has the property to sell it also has pitfalls at that person can sabotage the sale. As a suggestion, you could ask the court to give that person so many months to sell(six at the most since if it isn't sold in that period with this market, s!<br>
omething is wrong), and then requiring that spouse to vacate and put the property in the hands of a receiver of referee. If you do that, make sure that the court order empowers that person to sign all documents necessary to consummate the sale. Also, when you get an offer, it is not a bad idea to have a court approval contingency. While that forces you to move to have the court approve the sale, it also forces either of the parties to object at that time or be forever foreclosed. Probate attorney use this device all the time where there is an heir that thinks the property is worth a whole lot more than it is but has nothing to back it up.<br>
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I have worked with Bob Bauer at Bauer Evans in Everett many times on complex real estate matters and respect his abilities. 425 252 6909<br>
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I would do that in the divorce action. Motion to force the sale. I would try to set up contempt as well to add some leverage<br>
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In a divorce, where there is a final decree directing one spouse to refinance or sell the property to buy the other spouse out, what would you do if the one spouse has not refinanced or sold the property as directed by the decree?<br>
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File a motion to enforce in the dissolution action or file a separate action for partition to force a sale. Refinancing in this circumstance is highly optimistic.<br>
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 12:54:42 -0700<br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Partition Action or Not?<br>
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I?d offer a declaration in the disso action, setting out how, given the decree, refinancing by the obligee spouse is untenable, and that the obligor spouse has failed or refused to act. Based upon the same, the effective remedy is not a ?motion to compel?, but an order allowing the obligee to sell on reasonable terms, with the costs of the same to be deducted from the share of proceeds of sale payable to the defaulting party; and further that the defaulting party pay for the fees and costs otherwise incurred by the obligee spouse to enforce the decree provision pertaining to sale. Good luck!<br>
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> On Aug 14, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Catherine Clark <<a href="mailto:Cat@loccc.com">Cat@loccc.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> All:<br>
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> In a divorce, where there is a final decree directing one spouse to refinance or sell the property to buy the other spouse out, what would you do if the one spouse has not refinanced or sold the property as directed by the decree?<br>
> <br>
> File a motion to enforce in the dissolution action or file a separate action for partition to force a sale. Refinancing in this circumstance is highly optimistic.<br>
> <br>
> Thank you.<br>
> <br>
> Catherine "Cat" Clark<br>
> Law Office of Catherine C. Clark PLLC<br>
> 2200 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1250<br>
> Seattle, WA 98121<br>
> Phone: (206) 838-2528<br>
> Cell: (206) 409-8938<br>
> Fax: (206) 374-3003<br>
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 20:32:56 +0000<br>
From: Allen Sakai <<a href="mailto:asakai@jgslaw.com">asakai@jgslaw.com</a>><br>
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I am working on one now as referee where the divorce counsel did move for partition. One thing that you may want to consider is some sort of writ of ejectment order as part of the motion. Otherwise you?ll end up selling the property and the other party won?t leave. Then you can?t deliver possession to the buyer.<br>
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I?d offer a declaration in the disso action, setting out how, given the decree, refinancing by the obligee spouse is untenable, and that the obligor spouse has failed or refused to act. Based upon the same, the effective remedy is not a ?motion to compel?, but an order allowing the obligee to sell on reasonable terms, with the costs of the same to be deducted from the share of proceeds of sale payable to the defaulting party; and further that the defaulting party pay for the fees and costs otherwise incurred by the obligee spouse to enforce the decree provision pertaining to sale. Good luck!<br>
On Aug 14, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Catherine Clark <<a href="mailto:Cat@loccc.com">Cat@loccc.com</a><<a href="mailto:Cat@loccc.com?">mailto:Cat@loccc.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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All:<br>
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In a divorce, where there is a final decree directing one spouse to refinance or sell the property to buy the other spouse out, what would you do if the one spouse has not refinanced or sold the property as directed by the decree?<br>
<br>
File a motion to enforce in the dissolution action or file a separate action for partition to force a sale. Refinancing in this circumstance is highly optimistic.<br>
<br>
Thank you.<br>
<br>
Catherine "Cat" Clark<br>
Law Office of Catherine C. Clark PLLC<br>
2200 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1250<br>
Seattle, WA 98121<br>
Phone: (206) 838-2528<br>
Cell: (206) 409-8938<br>
Fax: (206) 374-3003<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:cat@loccc.com">cat@loccc.com</a><<a href="mailto:cat@loccc.com><mailto:cat@loccc.com?">mailto:cat@loccc.com><mailto:cat@loccc.com</a>><br>
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 15:19:11 +0000<br>
From: Catherine Clark <<a href="mailto:Cat@loccc.com">Cat@loccc.com</a>><br>
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All great points folks. Thank you!<br>
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2200 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1250<br>
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I am working on one now as referee where the divorce counsel did move for partition. One thing that you may want to consider is some sort of writ of ejectment order as part of the motion. Otherwise you?ll end up selling the property and the other party won?t leave. Then you can?t deliver possession to the buyer.<br>
<br>
Allen R. Sakai<br>
Attorney at Law<br>
Jeppesen Gray Sakai P.S.<br>
10655 N.E. 4th Street, Suite 801<br>
Bellevue, WA 98004-5044<br>
<br>
Phone: 425-454-2344<br>
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I?d offer a declaration in the disso action, setting out how, given the decree, refinancing by the obligee spouse is untenable, and that the obligor spouse has failed or refused to act. Based upon the same, the effective remedy is not a ?motion to compel?, but an order allowing the obligee to sell on reasonable terms, with the costs of the same to be deducted from the share of proceeds of sale payable to the defaulting party; and further that the defaulting party pay for the fees and costs otherwise incurred by the obligee spouse to enforce the decree provision pertaining to sale. Good luck!<br>
On Aug 14, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Catherine Clark <<a href="mailto:Cat@loccc.com">Cat@loccc.com</a><<a href="mailto:Cat@loccc.com?">mailto:Cat@loccc.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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All:<br>
<br>
In a divorce, where there is a final decree directing one spouse to refinance or sell the property to buy the other spouse out, what would you do if the one spouse has not refinanced or sold the property as directed by the decree?<br>
<br>
File a motion to enforce in the dissolution action or file a separate action for partition to force a sale. Refinancing in this circumstance is highly optimistic.<br>
<br>
Thank you.<br>
<br>
Catherine "Cat" Clark<br>
Law Office of Catherine C. Clark PLLC<br>
2200 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1250<br>
Seattle, WA 98121<br>
Phone: (206) 838-2528<br>
Cell: (206) 409-8938<br>
Fax: (206) 374-3003<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:cat@loccc.com">cat@loccc.com</a><<a href="mailto:cat@loccc.com><mailto:cat@loccc.com?">mailto:cat@loccc.com><mailto:cat@loccc.com</a>><br>
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 08:37:40 -0700<br>
From: "Alan Middleton" <<a href="mailto:alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net">alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net</a>><br>
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Listmates, I need recommendations for a commercial RE appraiser to appraise<br>
property located in Everett. Thanks!<br>
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<br>
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Alan S. Middleton<br>
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Law Offices of Alan S. Middleton PLLC<br>
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10605 SE 240th St. PMB 444<br>
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Kent, WA 98031<br>
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Tel (206) 533-0490<br>
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 15:44:03 +0000<br>
From: "G. Geoffrey Gibbs" <<a href="mailto:ggibbs@andersonhunterlaw.com">ggibbs@andersonhunterlaw.com</a>><br>
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My "go to" commercial appraiser in the area is Jim Dodge and Valbridge. Extremely competent and professional and usually carries the day in court. <a href="mailto:jdodge@valbridge.com">jdodge@valbridge.com</a><<a href="mailto:jdodge@valbridge.com?">mailto:jdodge@valbridge.com</a>> In the same firm is Bob Macaulay who is also excellent. GGG<br>
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2707 Colby Avenue | Everett, WA 98201<br>
Phone: (425) 252-5161 | Fax: (425) 258-3345<br>
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Listmates, I need recommendations for a commercial RE appraiser to appraise property located in Everett. Thanks!<br>
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Alan S. Middleton<br>
Law Offices of Alan S. Middleton PLLC<br>
10605 SE 240th St. PMB 444<br>
Kent, WA 98031<br>
Tel (206) 533-0490<br>
<a href="mailto:alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net">alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net</a><<a href="mailto:alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net?">mailto:alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net</a>><br>
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 08:47:10 -0700<br>
From: "Alan Middleton" <<a href="mailto:alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net">alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net</a>><br>
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Thanks, Geoff.<br>
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Alan S. Middleton<br>
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Law Offices of Alan S. Middleton PLLC<br>
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10605 SE 240th St. PMB 444<br>
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Kent, WA 98031<br>
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Tel (206) 533-0490<br>
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<<a href="mailto:alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net?">mailto:alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net</a>> <a href="mailto:alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net">alanscottmiddleton@comcast.net</a><br>
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My "go to" commercial appraiser in the area is Jim Dodge and Valbridge.<br>
Extremely competent and professional and usually carries the day in court.<br>
<a href="mailto:jdodge@valbridge.com">jdodge@valbridge.com</a> <<a href="mailto:jdodge@valbridge.com?">mailto:jdodge@valbridge.com</a>> In the same firm is Bob<br>
Macaulay who is also excellent. GGG<br>
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G. Geoffrey Gibbs | Anderson Hunter Law Firm <br>
2707 Colby Avenue | Everett, WA 98201 <br>
Phone: (425) 252-5161 | Fax: (425) 258-3345 <br>
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Listmates, I need recommendations for a commercial RE appraiser to appraise<br>
property located in Everett. Thanks!<br>
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Alan S. Middleton<br>
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Law Offices of Alan S. Middleton PLLC<br>
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10605 SE 240th St. PMB 444<br>
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Kent, WA 98031<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 10:36:20 -0700<br>
From: "Gregory L. Gilday" <cole-<a href="mailto:gilday@stanwoodlaw.net">gilday@stanwoodlaw.net</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Partition Action or Not?<br>
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I just met with client who is in this same predicament - house was <br>
awarded to his ex, it was never refinanced, and is now going through the <br>
foreclosure process. There seems to equity there to protect, but the ex <br>
refuses to do anything. ? As this is not in my wheelhouse, would anyone <br>
like to take this on?? Client lives in Wenatchee and the dissolution was <br>
in Lincoln County.? I'll pass on all names.<br>
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Thank you,<br>
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Very Truly Yours,<br>
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On 8/14/2018 10:44 AM, Catherine Clark wrote:<br>
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> In a divorce, where there is a final decree directing one spouse to refinance or sell the property to buy the other spouse out, what would you do if the one spouse has not refinanced or sold the property as directed by the decree?<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 17:52:55 +0000<br>
From: Gerald Sprute <<a href="mailto:sprutelaw@msn.com">sprutelaw@msn.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] medical file retention in Will?<br>
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I?m drafting a Will for a client who is in the medical profession, and has her own client files that need to be retained for 10 years. She has a professional colleague who would take charge of the files after client passes, for whatever admin needs to be taken care of. Client is an anesthesiologist, no ongoing doctor-patient relation so that?s not a concern.<br>
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Is this something that you would put in the Will, or would this be better left as instructions to the Executor? There?s no asset value in the files, it?s more of a caretaker responsibility over the files. Any thoughts on the best way to address this?<br>
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Message: 12<br>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 11:02:53 -0700<br>
From: "Gregory L. Ursich" <<a href="mailto:gursich@insleebest.com">gursich@insleebest.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Commercial RE Appraiser in Everett<br>
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At the same firm, Darrin Shedd, MAI, is also excellent, at Valbridge.<br>
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My "go to" commercial appraiser in the area is Jim Dodge and Valbridge. Extremely competent and professional and usually carries the day in court. <a href="mailto:jdodge@valbridge.com">jdodge@valbridge.com</a><<a href="mailto:jdodge@valbridge.com?">mailto:jdodge@valbridge.com</a>> In the same firm is Bob Macaulay who is also excellent. GGG<br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] Commercial RE Appraiser in Everett<br>
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Listmates, I need recommendations for a commercial RE appraiser to appraise property located in Everett. Thanks!<br>
<br>
Alan S. Middleton<br>
Law Offices of Alan S. Middleton PLLC<br>
10605 SE 240th St. PMB 444<br>
Kent, WA 98031<br>
Tel (206) 533-0490<br>
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Message: 13<br>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 18:27:56 +0000<br>
From: Roger Hawkes <Roger@law-hawks.com><br>
To: "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] cpa north re property development<br>
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Thanks, Craig.<br>
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PLEASE NOTICE OUR NEW ADDRESS BELOW, ACROSS THE STREET ALMOST FROM OUR PRIOR ADDRESS; OTHER CONTACT INFO REMAINS THE SAME<br>
Roger Hawkes, WSBA 5173<br>
19944 Ballinger Way NE<br>
Suite 100<br>
Shoreline, WA 98155<br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] cpa north re property development<br>
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I have worked with Bob Bauer at Bauer Evans in Everett many times on complex real estate matters and respect his abilities. 425 252 6909<br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] cpa north re property development<br>
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A client is asking for a referral to a cpa familiar with real property development, preferably north king or south Snohomish county. Please refer someone(s).<br>
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PLEASE NOTICE OUR NEW ADDRESS BELOW, ACROSS THE STREET ALMOST FROM OUR PRIOR ADDRESS; OTHER CONTACT INFO REMAINS THE SAME<br>
Roger Hawkes, WSBA 5173<br>
19944 Ballinger Way NE<br>
Suite 100<br>
Shoreline, WA 98155<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 14:17:53 -0700<br>
From: "Rick Hoss" <<a href="mailto:rhoss@hctc.com">rhoss@hctc.com</a>><br>
To: "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Restraining order<br>
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Gamboa v. Clark 183 Wn 2d 38 (2015) presumption of permissive use.<br>
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Roediger v. Cullen 26 Wn 2d 690 (1946) use of footpath to beach arose from<br>
neighborly acquiescence<br>
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Two problems for your client.<br>
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Cc: Tom Hause<br>
Subject: [WSBARP] Restraining order<br>
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Listmates, We are wondering if anyone could share their experience with<br>
restraining orders to allow continued use of an easement. Short story is<br>
good client has a valid proscriptive easement ( meets all the criteria) over<br>
a path they have used since 1940. Bad client bought the burdened property a<br>
couple years ago and has now forbidden good client to access the beach over<br>
the path. Altercations have been both verbal and physical assault so we have<br>
grounds for a protective order but we would like to include an order to keep<br>
status quo allowing path use until we can get a hearing on merits of the<br>
easement. Good client has a family reunion this weekend which would include<br>
use of the beach. No alternative way to access the water. Any insight or<br>
experience would be appreciated! Tom Hause in our office is handling the<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 14:49:41 -0700<br>
From: "Rob Wilson-Hoss" <<a href="mailto:rob@hctc.com">rob@hctc.com</a>><br>
To: "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: [WSBARP] holdover, VRBO<br>
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Client owns three short-term vacation rentals. Current customer has language<br>
barrier, but transaction through VRBO with contract. Today was check-out, at<br>
10:00 am. Customer left this morning but left all belongings in unit. Unit<br>
rented for tonight to others. Customer not answering phones. Client can put<br>
tonight's renters in an adjacent unit, but only for tonight. Client doesn't<br>
know what the intent of holdovers is, but needs the unit. <br>
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<br>
Nothing specific in contract giving permission to box up and store<br>
belongings in case of holdover. <br>
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This has to be a common problem with hotels and motels, so, anyone with any<br>
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 16:30:23 -0700<br>
From: Kimberly Hammit <<a href="mailto:kim@kimhammitlaw.com">kim@kimhammitlaw.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] special needs trust referral - Kent<br>
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I have a PC who would like to leave life insurance proceeds (maybe) to a<br>
non-relative, adult with autism who is living in a group home. She was a<br>
former caregiver and wants to make sure the guy is taken care of. Anyone<br>
want me to pass on their name? Its out of my geographical area ...<br>
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Kimberly S. Hammit<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 16:38:01 -0700<br>
From: Jan Kelly <<a href="mailto:jan@jankellylaw.com">jan@jankellylaw.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] special needs trust referral - Kent<br>
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Hi Kim,<br>
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I travel to that area for estate planning clients and would be happy to<br>
meet with them. I hope you're doing well!<br>
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Best,<br>
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On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Kimberly Hammit <<a href="mailto:kim@kimhammitlaw.com">kim@kimhammitlaw.com</a>><br>
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> I have a PC who would like to leave life insurance proceeds (maybe) to a<br>
> non-relative, adult with autism who is living in a group home. She was a<br>
> former caregiver and wants to make sure the guy is taken care of. Anyone<br>
> want me to pass on their name? Its out of my geographical area ...<br>
><br>
> Kimberly S. Hammit<br>
> Attorney<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 18:58:37 -0700<br>
From: Michael Safren <<a href="mailto:msafren@gmail.com">msafren@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] Free CLE: Webinar on Hot Topics in Landlord/ Tenant<br>
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Hello Fellow Listservers:<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 03:49:43 +0000<br>
From: John McLaughlin <<a href="mailto:johnpmclaughlin@hotmail.com">johnpmclaughlin@hotmail.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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Hello All:<br>
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I?m hoping to find a referral for a potential client, a nonprofit corporation set up as a homeowner?s association, which needs assistance with drafting and recording restrictive covenants. I know there are several attorneys active on this list that practice in this area. Ideally, the attorney would be local to the Seattle area.<br>
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Any suggestions?<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:43:01 -0700<br>
From: Lisa Chiang <<a href="mailto:feesimple7@gmail.com">feesimple7@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10<br>
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Dear listmates:<br>
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Does anyone have a particular title company and if so, person they like to<br>
work with for a) issuing title insurance and b) servicing the deed of trust<br>
(i.e. serving as trustee)? This is a seller financed residential<br>
(condominium) transaction in King County.<br>
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Feel free to email me offline.<br>
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Thanks in advance. Best regards,<br>
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Lisa<br>
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> Message: 1<br>
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 22:22:35 +0000<br>
> From: Paul Neumiller <<a href="mailto:pneumiller@hotmail.com">pneumiller@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [WSBARP] "Ratification" Of HOA Budget and Reality Check<br>
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> Some listservers have emailed me privately and suggested that the HOA may<br>
> be correct because of the following language found in new RCW64.90.525:<br>
> "Unless at that meeting the unit owners of units to which a majority of<br>
> the votes in the association are allocated or any larger percentage<br>
> specified in the declaration reject the budget, the budget and the<br>
> assessments against the units included in the budget are ratified, whether<br>
> or not a quorum is present."<br>
><br>
> The thought is that by not putting the budget to an actual vote, then a<br>
> majority of the members didn't reject the budget, and so the new budget is<br>
> deemed ratified.<br>
><br>
> But it still seems to me that the members have to actively vote on the<br>
> matter. See RCW 64.38.035(3) "The notice of any meeting shall state the<br>
> time and place of the meeting and the business to be placed on the agenda<br>
> by the board of directors for a vote by the owners, including the general<br>
> nature of any proposed amendment to the articles of incorporation, bylaws,<br>
> any budget or changes in the previously approved budget that result in a<br>
> change in assessment obligation, and any proposal to remove a director.")<br>
><br>
> It seems to me that the WA legislature is requiring an actual vote. In<br>
> shifting the burden of the Board and favoring the Board, note that it takes<br>
> a majority to reject the budget rather than requiring a majority to accept<br>
> the new budget.<br>
><br>
> Even in the notorious case of Casey v. Sudden Valley Community Association<br>
> (182 Wn.App. 315 (Div. 1 2014), there was an actual vote.<br>
><br>
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> From: wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
> On Behalf Of Paul Neumiller<br>
> Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:09 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
> Subject: [WSBARP] "Ratification" Of HOA Budget and Reality Check<br>
><br>
><br>
> I have been approached by a Chapter 64.38 HOA who has a creative take on<br>
> the requirement of the members to "ratify" the annual budget. For years,<br>
> the HOA has published the annual budget and sent the proper notices and<br>
> then held its annual meeting within the proper time limits. Then the Board<br>
> presents the budget at the annual meeting but, in their own words, "as long<br>
> as the majority of the membership did not notify the board that they reject<br>
> the budget, we considered the budget ratified at the time of the annual<br>
> meeting." As a clarification, the HOA President wrote to me and stated "In<br>
> addition to publishing a high level budget a month before our annual<br>
> meeting, we review the budget at our annual meeting. We do not call for a<br>
> vote. Again, our understanding is that as long as the membership does not<br>
> voice rejection of the budget, we considered it ratified."<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> OK, Chapters 64.38 and 64.90 (under the budget provision which applies to<br>
> "old" HOAs) do not define "ratify" or "ratification" but common sense and<br>
> other sources indicate that "to ratify" requires an affimative action or<br>
> vote. It seems this HOA is equating "to ratify" with "to acquiesce." In<br>
> case I am missing something here and before I advise them they are doing it<br>
> wrong (tactfully, of course), I wanted to throw it out to the collective<br>
> hive for a reality check first. Does "ratification" of the budget mean the<br>
> members have to affirmatively take a vote?<br>
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> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:04:27 -0700<br>
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> To: "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Ancillary Probate in OH?<br>
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> I have a potential client who wants to do a solvent probate for her<br>
> mother?s estate. Decedent is also on title to a house in OH with her<br>
> brother. The OH house has been condemned and red tagged from occupancy.<br>
> There are serious non-compliance issues to render the value of the OH<br>
> property in the land only and has been subject to government fines and<br>
> penalties for almost a year. Client wants to just open the WA probate and<br>
> not deal with the OH house and let it go.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Wondering what pearls of wisdom others may have? To ignore the distressed<br>
> OH house is an easy answer, but it is still part of the estate.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Very truly yours,<br>
><br>
> Maureen A. Wickert, Attorney at Law<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> 14900 Interurban Avenue South, Suite 255<br>
><br>
> Tukwila, WA 98168<br>
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> Phone: 206-859-5502<br>
><br>
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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:50:55 -0700<br>
From: Craig Blackmon <<a href="mailto:craig@lawofficeofcraigblackmon.com">craig@lawofficeofcraigblackmon.com</a>><br>
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Lisa, maybe I'm an idiot, but I generally trust any licensed LPO working<br>
for a licensed title insurance company - and that title insurance company<br>
is in turn routinely happy to be named as trustee in the DOT. I've yet to<br>
suffer any consequence or adverse result.<br>
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Craig<br>
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On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Lisa Chiang <<a href="mailto:feesimple7@gmail.com">feesimple7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Dear listmates:<br>
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> Does anyone have a particular title company and if so, person they like to<br>
> work with for a) issuing title insurance and b) servicing the deed of trust<br>
> (i.e. serving as trustee)? This is a seller financed residential<br>
> (condominium) transaction in King County.<br>
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> Feel free to email me offline.<br>
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> Thanks in advance. Best regards,<br>
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>> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 22:22:35 +0000<br>
>> From: Paul Neumiller <<a href="mailto:pneumiller@hotmail.com">pneumiller@hotmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [WSBARP] "Ratification" Of HOA Budget and Reality Check<br>
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>> Some listservers have emailed me privately and suggested that the HOA may<br>
>> be correct because of the following language found in new RCW64.90.525:<br>
>> "Unless at that meeting the unit owners of units to which a majority of<br>
>> the votes in the association are allocated or any larger percentage<br>
>> specified in the declaration reject the budget, the budget and the<br>
>> assessments against the units included in the budget are ratified, whether<br>
>> or not a quorum is present."<br>
>><br>
>> The thought is that by not putting the budget to an actual vote, then a<br>
>> majority of the members didn't reject the budget, and so the new budget is<br>
>> deemed ratified.<br>
>><br>
>> But it still seems to me that the members have to actively vote on the<br>
>> matter. See RCW 64.38.035(3) "The notice of any meeting shall state the<br>
>> time and place of the meeting and the business to be placed on the agenda<br>
>> by the board of directors for a vote by the owners, including the general<br>
>> nature of any proposed amendment to the articles of incorporation, bylaws,<br>
>> any budget or changes in the previously approved budget that result in a<br>
>> change in assessment obligation, and any proposal to remove a director.")<br>
>><br>
>> It seems to me that the WA legislature is requiring an actual vote. In<br>
>> shifting the burden of the Board and favoring the Board, note that it takes<br>
>> a majority to reject the budget rather than requiring a majority to accept<br>
>> the new budget.<br>
>><br>
>> Even in the notorious case of Casey v. Sudden Valley Community<br>
>> Association (182 Wn.App. 315 (Div. 1 2014), there was an actual vote.<br>
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>> .com> On Behalf Of Paul Neumiller<br>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:09 PM<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
>> Subject: [WSBARP] "Ratification" Of HOA Budget and Reality Check<br>
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>> I have been approached by a Chapter 64.38 HOA who has a creative take on<br>
>> the requirement of the members to "ratify" the annual budget. For years,<br>
>> the HOA has published the annual budget and sent the proper notices and<br>
>> then held its annual meeting within the proper time limits. Then the Board<br>
>> presents the budget at the annual meeting but, in their own words, "as long<br>
>> as the majority of the membership did not notify the board that they reject<br>
>> the budget, we considered the budget ratified at the time of the annual<br>
>> meeting." As a clarification, the HOA President wrote to me and stated "In<br>
>> addition to publishing a high level budget a month before our annual<br>
>> meeting, we review the budget at our annual meeting. We do not call for a<br>
>> vote. Again, our understanding is that as long as the membership does not<br>
>> voice rejection of the budget, we considered it ratified."<br>
>><br>
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>> OK, Chapters 64.38 and 64.90 (under the budget provision which applies to<br>
>> "old" HOAs) do not define "ratify" or "ratification" but common sense and<br>
>> other sources indicate that "to ratify" requires an affimative action or<br>
>> vote. It seems this HOA is equating "to ratify" with "to acquiesce." In<br>
>> case I am missing something here and before I advise them they are doing it<br>
>> wrong (tactfully, of course), I wanted to throw it out to the collective<br>
>> hive for a reality check first. Does "ratification" of the budget mean the<br>
>> members have to affirmatively take a vote?<br>
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>> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:04:27 -0700<br>
>> From: "Wickert Law" <<a href="mailto:wickertlaw@comcast.net">wickertlaw@comcast.net</a>><br>
>> To: "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Ancillary Probate in OH?<br>
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>> I have a potential client who wants to do a solvent probate for her<br>
>> mother?s estate. Decedent is also on title to a house in OH with her<br>
>> brother. The OH house has been condemned and red tagged from occupancy.<br>
>> There are serious non-compliance issues to render the value of the OH<br>
>> property in the land only and has been subject to government fines and<br>
>> penalties for almost a year. Client wants to just open the WA probate and<br>
>> not deal with the OH house and let it go.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Wondering what pearls of wisdom others may have? To ignore the distressed<br>
>> OH house is an easy answer, but it is still part of the estate.<br>
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>> Very truly yours,<br>
>><br>
>> Maureen A. Wickert, Attorney at Law<br>
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