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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>We almost always do assignments instead of disclaimers; tax consequences need to be considered. The disclaimer statute includes, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black;background:white'>This chapter shall not abridge the right of any person, apart from this chapter, under any existing or future statute or rule of law, to disclaim any interest or to assign, convey, release, renounce or otherwise dispose of any interest.</span></i><i><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><br><br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>11.86.080 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>This covers Steve's quit claim deeds as well. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Rob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Robert D. Wilson-Hoss <br>Hoss & Wilson-Hoss, LLP <br>236 West Birch Street <br>Shelton, WA 98584 <br>360 426-2999<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><a href="www.hossandwilsonhoss.com">www.hossandwilson-hoss.com</a><br><a href="mailto:rob@hctc.com">rob@hctc.com</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>This message is intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any use, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or by telephone (call us collect at the number listed above) and immediately delete this message and any and all of its attachments. Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;text-transform:uppercase'>This office does debt collection and this e-mail may be an attempt to collect a debt, Any information obtained will be used for that purpose. </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To the extent the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (15 U.S.C. ยง 1692) applies this firm is acting as a debt collector for the condominium/homeowners' association named above to collect a debt owed to it. Any information obtained will be used for collection purposes. You have the right to seek advice of legal counsel.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Whitehouse<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 08, 2018 4:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 46, Issue 3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Rich, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> You aren't clear on if the son's interest is a present interest? It seems like it is. He could just do a quit claim deed. If it is not a present interest, you would need to insert and after acquired title clause. As to either that or a disclaimer, you might check the tax consequences. He could quit claim a certain percentage each year to avoid that.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Stephen Whitehouse</span></b></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Whitehouse & Nichols, LLP</span></b></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P.O. Box 1273</span></b></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>601 W. Railroad Ave.</span></b></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Shelton, Wa. 98584</span></b></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>360-426-5885</span></b></em><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><em><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>swhite8893@aol.com</span></em></span></i></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: wsbarp-request <wsbarp-request@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>To: wsbarp <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>Sent: Sat, Jul 7, 2018 12:00 pm<br>Subject: WSBARP Digest, Vol 46, Issue 3<br><br>Send WSBARP mailing list submissions to<br><a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>wsbarp-<a href="mailto:request@lists.wsbarppt.com">request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br>wsbarp-<a href="mailto:owner@lists.wsbarppt.com">owner@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of WSBARP digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br>1. Effect of Disclaimer (J Richard McEntee, Jr.)<br>2. Re: Effect of Disclaimer (Rod Harmon)<br>3. Re: Effect of Disclaimer (HOWARD HERMAN)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 14:49:41 -0700<br>From: "J Richard McEntee, Jr." <<a href="mailto:jrmcentee@gmail.com">jrmcentee@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>Subject: [WSBARP] Effect of Disclaimer<br>Message-ID: <A00BAD79-1182-4FC7-B345-<a href="mailto:5186554AF75E@gmail.com">5186554AF75E@gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Hello list mates ?<br><br>I have a client who would like to disclaim an interest in real estate that he is to receive under his father?s will. His mother is alive and still owns a community interest in the real property. The client would like to disclaim such that his mother receives the deceased father?s community share of the property. The mother is entitled to the residuary estate. <br><br>In the particular situation, I am not certain that with a disclaimer the property will become part of the residuary estate. If the the effect of the disclaimer is that the disclaimant is treated as predeceasing the testator, will the property pass to the heirs of the disclaimant as opposed to the residuary estate? The dispositive language of the will reads as follows:<br><br>Bequest of Condominium. My entire interest, if any, in the condominium located at abc street any town USA (the ?Condominium") subject to any encumbrances thereon, all appliances, furniture, fixtures, ? located therein not otherwise disposed of by this instrument, and interest in insurance policies covering any of the foregoing, shall be distributed outright to my son, John Doe.<br><br>Without a survivorship clause, will the disclaimant's heirs take the condo under this scenario? If so, is there a solution that gets the property to Mom? If not, the client will be fine co-owing with Mom. However, he believes that mom should own the entire property and then if she chooses to give to him later then that will be satisfactory.<br><br>Please let me know your thoughts.<br><br>Thank you <br><br>Rich<br><br><br>RICH McENTEE<br>McENTEE LAW OFFICE<br>3800 Bridgeport Way W, Ste A411<br>University Place, WA 98466<br>253.227.9894(m)<br><a href="mailto:jrmcentee@gmail.com">jrmcentee@gmail.com</a> <br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20180706/329b8c40/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20180706/329b8c40/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 03:01:45 +0000<br>From: Rod Harmon <<a href="mailto:rodharmon@msn.com">rodharmon@msn.com</a>><br>To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Effect of Disclaimer<br>Message-ID:<br><<a href="mailto:MWHPR19MB13255FEBC17C38850AC6EF20AB460@MWHPR19MB1325.namprd19.prod.outlook.com">MWHPR19MB13255FEBC17C38850AC6EF20AB460@MWHPR19MB1325.namprd19.prod.outlook.com</a>><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>RCW 11.86.041 Disposition of disclaimed interest.<br>(1) Unless the instrument creating an interest directs to the contrary, the interest disclaimed shall pass as if the beneficiary had died immediately prior to the date of the transfer of the interest. The disclaimer shall relate back to this date for all purposes.<br>(2) Unless the beneficiary provides otherwise in the disclaimer, in addition to the interests disclaimed, the beneficiary shall also be deemed to have disclaimed the minimum of all interests in the disclaimed property necessary to make the disclaimer a qualified disclaimer for purposes of section 2518 of the Internal Revenue Code.<br>(3) Any future interest taking effect in possession or enjoyment after termination of the interest disclaimed takes effect as if the beneficiary had died prior to the date of the beneficiary's final ascertainment as a beneficiary and the indefeasible vesting of the interest.<br>(4) The disclaimer is binding upon the beneficiary and all persons claiming through or under the beneficiary.<br>(5) Unless the instrument creating the interest directs to the contrary, a beneficiary whose interest in a devise or bequest under a will has been disclaimed shall be deemed to have died for purposes of RCW 11.12.110.<br>(6) In the case of a disclaimer of property over which the disclaimant has any power to direct the beneficial enjoyment of the disclaimed property, the disclaimant shall also be deemed to have disclaimed any power to direct the beneficial enjoyment of the disclaimed property, unless the power is limited by an ascertainable standard relating to the health, education, support, or maintenance of any person as described in section 2041 or 2514 of the Internal Revenue Code and applicable regulations adopted under those sections. This subsection applies unless the disclaimer specifically provides otherwise. This subsection shall not be deemed to otherwise prevent such a disclaimant from acting as trustee or personal representative over disclaimed property.<br><br><br>Rod Harmon<br><br>RODNEY T. HARMON<br>Attorney at Law<br>P.O. Box 1066<br>Bothell, WA 98041<br>Tel: (425) 402-7800<br>Fax: (425) 458-9096<br><a href="http://www.rodharmon.com%3chttp:/www.rodharmon.com" target="_blank">www.rodharmon.com<http://www.rodharmon.com</a>><br><a href="mailto:rodharmon@msn.com">rodharmon@msn.com</a><<a href="mailto:rodharmon@msn.com?">mailto:rodharmon@msn.com</a>><br><br><br><br><br>From: wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com?">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of J Richard McEntee, Jr.<br>Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 2:50 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>Subject: [WSBARP] Effect of Disclaimer<br><br>Hello list mates ?<br><br>I have a client who would like to disclaim an interest in real estate that he is to receive under his father?s will. His mother is alive and still owns a community interest in the real property. The client would like to disclaim such that his mother receives the deceased father?s community share of the property. The mother is entitled to the residuary estate.<br><br>In the particular situation, I am not certain that with a disclaimer the property will become part of the residuary estate. If the the effect of the disclaimer is that the disclaimant is treated as predeceasing the testator, will the property pass to the heirs of the disclaimant as opposed to the residuary estate? The dispositive language of the will reads as follows:<br><br>Bequest of Condominium. My entire interest, if any, in the condominium located at abc street any town USA (the ?Condominium") subject to any encumbrances thereon, all appliances, furniture, fixtures, ? located therein not otherwise disposed of by this instrument, and interest in insurance policies covering any of the foregoing, shall be distributed outright to my son, John Doe.<br><br>Without a survivorship clause, will the disclaimant's heirs take the condo under this scenario? If so, is there a solution that gets the property to Mom? If not, the client will be fine co-owing with Mom. However, he believes that mom should own the entire property and then if she chooses to give to him later then that will be satisfactory.<br><br>Please let me know your thoughts.<br><br>Thank you<br><br>Rich<br><br>RICH McENTEE<br>McENTEE LAW OFFICE<br>3800 Bridgeport Way W, Ste A411<br>University Place, WA 98466<br>253.227.9894(m)<br><a href="mailto:jrmcentee@gmail.com">jrmcentee@gmail.com</a><<a href="mailto:jrmcentee@gmail.com?">mailto:jrmcentee@gmail.com</a>><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20180707/5c670b0f/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20180707/5c670b0f/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 11:53:46 -0700<br>From: "HOWARD HERMAN" <<a href="mailto:hhherman2@comcast.net">hhherman2@comcast.net</a>><br>To: "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Effect of Disclaimer<br>Message-ID: <001f01d41623$d6b0e290$8412a7b0$@comcast.net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Rich,<br><br><br><br>Since all of the estate planners appear to be on vacation this week, I will suggest what I would do. I would accept the gift from your father which would make you a tenant in common with your mother with a stepped up basis in your half of the property. Your mother already has a stepped up basis in her half. Then you could gift deed your half with the stepped up basis to mom and she would own the whole of the property with a stepped up basis. You can do this at a cost of two recording fees and no excise tax.<br><br><br><br>Howard Herman<br><br>Herman Herman & Jolley, P. S.<br><br>509 220 5810<br><br><br><br>From: wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com?">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Rod Harmon<br>Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 8:02 PM<br>To: WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Effect of Disclaimer<br><br><br><br><br>RCW 11.86.041 Disposition of disclaimed interest.<br><br><br>(1) Unless the instrument creating an interest directs to the contrary, the interest disclaimed shall pass as if the beneficiary had died immediately prior to the date of the transfer of the interest. The disclaimer shall relate back to this date for all purposes.<br><br>(2) Unless the beneficiary provides otherwise in the disclaimer, in addition to the interests disclaimed, the beneficiary shall also be deemed to have disclaimed the minimum of all interests in the disclaimed property necessary to make the disclaimer a qualified disclaimer for purposes of section 2518 of the Internal Revenue Code.<br><br>(3) Any future interest taking effect in possession or enjoyment after termination of the interest disclaimed takes effect as if the beneficiary had died prior to the date of the beneficiary's final ascertainment as a beneficiary and the indefeasible vesting of the interest.<br><br>(4) The disclaimer is binding upon the beneficiary and all persons claiming through or under the beneficiary.<br><br>(5) Unless the instrument creating the interest directs to the contrary, a beneficiary whose interest in a devise or bequest under a will has been disclaimed shall be deemed to have died for purposes of RCW 11.12.110.<br><br>(6) In the case of a disclaimer of property over which the disclaimant has any power to direct the beneficial enjoyment of the disclaimed property, the disclaimant shall also be deemed to have disclaimed any power to direct the beneficial enjoyment of the disclaimed property, unless the power is limited by an ascertainable standard relating to the health, education, support, or maintenance of any person as described in section 2041 or 2514 of the Internal Revenue Code and applicable regulations adopted under those sections. This subsection applies unless the disclaimer specifically provides otherwise. This subsection shall not be deemed to otherwise prevent such a disclaimant from acting as trustee or personal representative over disclaimed property.<br><br><br><br><br><br>Rod Harmon<br><br><br><br>RODNEY T. HARMON<br><br>Attorney at Law<br><br>P.O. Box 1066<br><br>Bothell, WA 98041<br><br>Tel: (425) 402-7800<br><br>Fax: (425) 458-9096<br><br><<a href="http://www.rodharmon.com" target="_blank">http://www.rodharmon.com</a>> <a href="http://www.rodharmon.com" target="_blank">www.rodharmon.com</a><br><br><<a href="mailto:rodharmon@msn.com?">mailto:rodharmon@msn.com</a>> <a href="mailto:rodharmon@msn.com">rodharmon@msn.com</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>From: wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com?">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of J Richard McEntee, Jr.<br>Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 2:50 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>Subject: [WSBARP] Effect of Disclaimer<br><br><br><br>Hello list mates ?<br><br><br><br>I have a client who would like to disclaim an interest in real estate that he is to receive under his father?s will. His mother is alive and still owns a community interest in the real property. The client would like to disclaim such that his mother receives the deceased father?s community share of the property. The mother is entitled to the residuary estate. <br><br><br><br>In the particular situation, I am not certain that with a disclaimer the property will become part of the residuary estate. If the the effect of the disclaimer is that the disclaimant is treated as predeceasing the testator, will the property pass to the heirs of the disclaimant as opposed to the residuary estate? The dispositive language of the will reads as follows:<br><br><br><br>Bequest of Condominium. My entire interest, if any, in the condominium located at abc street any town USA (the ?Condominium") subject to any encumbrances thereon, all appliances, furniture, fixtures, ? located therein not otherwise disposed of by this instrument, and interest in insurance policies covering any of the foregoing, shall be distributed outright to my son, John Doe.<br><br><br><br>Without a survivorship clause, will the disclaimant's heirs take the condo under this scenario? If so, is there a solution that gets the property to Mom? If not, the client will be fine co-owing with Mom. However, he believes that mom should own the entire property and then if she chooses to give to him later then that will be satisfactory.<br><br><br><br>Please let me know your thoughts.<br><br><br><br>Thank you <br><br><br><br>Rich<br><br><br><br>RICH McENTEE<br><br>McENTEE LAW OFFICE<br><br>3800 Bridgeport Way W, Ste A411<br><br>University Place, WA 98466<br><br>253.227.9894(m)<br><br><a href="mailto:jrmcentee@gmail.com">jrmcentee@gmail.com</a> <br><br><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20180707/ac59b768/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbarp/attachments/20180707/ac59b768/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>WSBARP mailing list<br><a href="mailto:WSBARP@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBARP@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp</a><br><br>End of WSBARP Digest, Vol 46, Issue 3<br>*************************************<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>