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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Paul, I am not answering your question, I know, but if you look at the UTC water regs, a HOA is exempt if it does not provide water to non-members, generally. Exemption from the regs is a very good thing. So, there is that. If you provide to nonmembers then you risk state regulation about all sorts of things having to do with water supply. So that may be precisely why the governing documents read the way they do - the HOA can buy water from outside sources, but not supply water to nonmembers. But if the HOA just buys water from an outside source, it isn't selling water or providing water to that source, it is taking water from that source, so that may be a better route. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Rob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Robert D. Wilson-Hoss <br>Hoss & Wilson-Hoss, LLP <br>236 West Birch Street <br>Shelton, WA 98584 <br>360 426-2999<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="www.hossandwilsonhoss.com"><span style='color:blue'>www.hossandwilson-hoss.com</span></a><br><a href="mailto:rob@hctc.com"><span style='color:blue'>rob@hctc.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>This message is intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee, you are hereby notified that any use, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or by telephone (call us collect at the number listed above) and immediately delete this message and any and all of its attachments. Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";text-transform:uppercase'>This office does debt collection and this e-mail may be an attempt to collect a debt, Any information obtained will be used for that purpose. </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>To the extent the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (15 U.S.C. § 1692) applies this firm is acting as a debt collector for the condominium/homeowners' association named above to collect a debt owed to it. Any information obtained will be used for collection purposes. You have the right to seek advice of legal counsel.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 08, 2018 3:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] HOA Gurus - New Off-site Water<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Looking for creative solutions in an attempt to avoid having to go to HOA annual meeting and amend the Articles and Bylaws. Large (200+) HOA needs more water capacity and wants to go to neighboring properties owners and ask for permission to either tap into their existing well(s) or permission to dig a new well(s). As part of the compensation to these offsite owners, HOA would like to offer free water from the well site BUT... The HOA is from the 1960's and the governing documents are very thin. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>1. Articles say, in part, "the purposes for which this corporation is organized are as follows: ...To own, operate and maintain a water supply system for its members, in compliance with health and environmental regulations of state and local government agencies, either drawing from wells owned by the corporation or from outside water sources, or both. The corporation shall not use or dispose of such water as a public utility but solely for the use it its members." <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>2. And, the Bylaws state: "The membership of the corporation shall consist of all owners of lots within the Plat."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>So, on first reading, it appears that the HOA can provide water <i>only</i> to “members” and the neighboring property owners are not within the defined Plat so they aren’t members. Does this mean the HOA can’t offer free water to the neighboring property owners who may be granting the HOA permission to sink a well? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>The HOA is saying that it wants to amend its Bylaws to include the neighbor's property (which, could be a 1/4 mile down the road and NOT contiguous) so that the new property comes under the definition of being a “member.” This does not sit well with me. I doubt the neighbors would want to be subject to CC&Rs for a development that is down the road. I imagine that the owner would argue that they have all of the burdens of the CC&Rs but none of the benefits. While I guess the HOA could extend use of the HOA’s swimming pool to the new member, it doesn’t pass the smell test to have a second class of member. Everybody in the Plat <u>versus</u> the one guy with the well on his property who gets free use of everything but the restrictions (such as tall weeds) doesn’t apply to him.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>OK, I am probably over-thinking this. Is it getting too cute to characterize the provision of water to the neighbor as a water easement payment rather than as water from the system? Any thoughts to add to this tumble of thoughts? (BTW, the HOA is hiring other experts to properly guide the HOA through the water permitting process so that its not my question here)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>