<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'>Scott,
<div> The estate cannot sell to your client. The estate can only assign out the vendor's interest in the contract. The current buyer has a right to a deed upon fulfillment of the contract. That right can only be taken away by agreement of a forfeiture action. The current buyer has a problem in that if a deed was not put into escrow, the only person who can execute a deed it the PR. If the estate closes, there is no PR. </div>
<div> I have a situation like that now and after discussions of how to resolve it, the estate has agreed to just stay open to execute a deed when the contract becomes fully due.</div>
<div> When I get involved in real estate contracts, I set up a contract collection account and escrow. A deed is executed but not delivered, but held by the contract collection company with authority to record it when their records show the contract was fulfilled.</div>
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<div>Steve<br>
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Can anyone recommend an appraiser in the south end for real property in an estate? Also if you have any idea how much they charge that would be wonderful.<br>
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16 A Street SE<br>
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 23:08:23 +0000<br>
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James Deifendorfer of Puyallup 253 445 4235 does these for estates in South King County and Pierce County. He's normally reasonable.<br>
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Douglas W. Scott<br>
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Can anyone recommend an appraiser in the south end for real property in an estate? Also if you have any idea how much they charge that would be wonderful.<br>
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 21:33:18 -0800<br>
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In Washington, we hardly ever deal with these things, so I thought I would<br>
throw it out to the group.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I have a client who is trying to buy a house from someone who is the heir of<br>
the owner who gave a real estate contract to the current purported owner of<br>
the property.<br>
<br>
The purported owner has recorded no deed, but has recorded a real estate<br>
contract which includes phrasing that, upon completion of the payments, the<br>
buyer will receive a fulfillment deed.<br>
<br>
Apparently, something has gone wrong and the party granting a real estate<br>
contract wants to renig and sell to my client. They are arguing that the<br>
purported owner does not hold title because he never recorded a deed.<br>
<br>
I recall, from those many years ago, that a real estate contract or a<br>
"contract for deed" gives all the trappings of ownership to the buyer, they<br>
just do not get a deed until their obligations are fulfilled, correct?<br>
<br>
So the question is, can I file a quiet title action to establish ownership<br>
in the party granting the real estate contract. Methinks the answer is<br>
no..no??<br>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 06:49:55 -0800<br>
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Absent a default, correct, and even then I think you'd likely have to go <br>
through the statutory procedure for forfeit out the interest.<br>
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You might want to look at Cascade Security Bank v. Butler, 88 Wn2d 777 <br>
(1977) and maybe even Freeborn v. Seattle Trust, 94 Wn.2d 336 (1980), <br>
although to some extent these cases deal with perfection issues.<br>
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Kary L. Krismer<br>
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On 1/23/2018 9:33 PM, Scott Hildebrand wrote:<br>
><br>
> In Washington, we hardly ever deal with these things, so I thought I <br>
> would throw it out to the group.<br>
><br>
> I have a client who is trying to buy a house from someone who is the <br>
> heir of the owner who gave a real estate contract to the current <br>
> purported owner of the property.<br>
><br>
> The purported owner has recorded no deed, but has recorded a real <br>
> estate contract which includes phrasing that, upon completion of the <br>
> payments, the buyer will receive a fulfillment deed.<br>
><br>
> Apparently, something has gone wrong and the party granting a real <br>
> estate contract wants to renig and sell to my client. They are arguing <br>
> that the purported owner does not hold title because he never recorded <br>
> a deed.<br>
><br>
> I recall, from those many years ago, that a real estate contract or a <br>
> ?contract for deed? gives all the trappings of ownership to the buyer, <br>
> they just do not get a deed until their obligations are fulfilled, <br>
> correct?<br>
><br>
> So the question is, can I file a quiet title action to establish <br>
> ownership in the party granting the real estate contract. Methinks the <br>
> answer is no..no??<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance,<br>
><br>
> Scott Hildebrand<br>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 16:24:09 +0000<br>
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QT is the way to go-we handle a fair volume of real estate contracts and from time to time need to quiet title when seller has not provided fulfillment deed and passed on.<br>
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In Washington, we hardly ever deal with these things, so I thought I would throw it out to the group.<br>
<br>
I have a client who is trying to buy a house from someone who is the heir of the owner who gave a real estate contract to the current purported owner of the property.<br>
The purported owner has recorded no deed, but has recorded a real estate contract which includes phrasing that, upon completion of the payments, the buyer will receive a fulfillment deed.<br>
Apparently, something has gone wrong and the party granting a real estate contract wants to renig and sell to my client. They are arguing that the purported owner does not hold title because he never recorded a deed.<br>
I recall, from those many years ago, that a real estate contract or a "contract for deed" gives all the trappings of ownership to the buyer, they just do not get a deed until their obligations are fulfilled, correct?<br>
So the question is, can I file a quiet title action to establish ownership in the party granting the real estate contract. Methinks the answer is no..no??<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance,<br>
Scott Hildebrand<br>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 08:34:59 -0800<br>
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The question though is seemingly the grantor of the REK (or their <br>
assignee) trying to quiet title on a buyer who is not in default.<br>
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Kary L. Krismer<br>
John L. Scott/KMS Renton<br>
206 723-2148<br>
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On 1/24/2018 8:24 AM, Jay Goldstein wrote:<br>
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> QT is the way to go?we handle a fair volume of real estate contracts <br>
> and from time to time need to quiet title when seller has not provided <br>
> fulfillment deed and passed on.<br>
><br>
> Jay A. Goldstein<br>
><br>
> Of Counsel<br>
><br>
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> *Subject:* [WSBARP] Real Estate Contract and Ownership<br>
><br>
> In Washington, we hardly ever deal with these things, so I thought I <br>
> would throw it out to the group.<br>
><br>
> I have a client who is trying to buy a house from someone who is the <br>
> heir of the owner who gave a real estate contract to the current <br>
> purported owner of the property.<br>
><br>
> The purported owner has recorded no deed, but has recorded a real <br>
> estate contract which includes phrasing that, upon completion of the <br>
> payments, the buyer will receive a fulfillment deed.<br>
><br>
> Apparently, something has gone wrong and the party granting a real <br>
> estate contract wants to renig and sell to my client. They are arguing <br>
> that the purported owner does not hold title because he never recorded <br>
> a deed.<br>
><br>
> I recall, from those many years ago, that a real estate contract or a <br>
> ?contract for deed? gives all the trappings of ownership to the buyer, <br>
> they just do not get a deed until their obligations are fulfilled, <br>
> correct?<br>
><br>
> So the question is, can I file a quiet title action to establish <br>
> ownership in the party granting the real estate contract. Methinks the <br>
> answer is no..no??<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance,<br>
><br>
> Scott Hildebrand<br>
><br>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 08:36:40 -0800<br>
From: Kary Krismer <<a href="mailto:Krismer@comcast.net">Krismer@comcast.net</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
Subject: [WSBARP] Online Notary Services<br>
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Stewart Title/Escrow is apparently offering online notary services. It <br>
sounds like a combination of electronic signatures and video <br>
conferencing, and it?s apparently accepted by Freddie and Fannie, but I <br>
suspect some lenders won?t allow it even on those loans.<br>
<br>
I could see this would be very convenient in almost every situation, in <br>
part due to the fact that the electronic signature process would speed <br>
things up considerably.? But I'm not so sure about accepting a warranty <br>
deed signed and notarized electronically.? What are other peoples' <br>
thoughts?? Is it worth adding a clause to a P&S contract saying the deed <br>
cannot be signed electronically?<br>
<br>
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Kary L. Krismer<br>
John L. Scott/KMS Renton<br>
206 723-2148<br>
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On 1/24/2018 8:24 AM, Jay Goldstein wrote:<br>
><br>
> QT is the way to go?we handle a fair volume of real estate contracts <br>
> and from time to time need to quiet title when seller has not provided <br>
> fulfillment deed and passed on.<br>
><br>
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> *To:* 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
> *Subject:* [WSBARP] Real Estate Contract and Ownership<br>
><br>
> In Washington, we hardly ever deal with these things, so I thought I <br>
> would throw it out to the group.<br>
><br>
> I have a client who is trying to buy a house from someone who is the <br>
> heir of the owner who gave a real estate contract to the current <br>
> purported owner of the property.<br>
><br>
> The purported owner has recorded no deed, but has recorded a real <br>
> estate contract which includes phrasing that, upon completion of the <br>
> payments, the buyer will receive a fulfillment deed.<br>
><br>
> Apparently, something has gone wrong and the party granting a real <br>
> estate contract wants to renig and sell to my client. They are arguing <br>
> that the purported owner does not hold title because he never recorded <br>
> a deed.<br>
><br>
> I recall, from those many years ago, that a real estate contract or a <br>
> ?contract for deed? gives all the trappings of ownership to the buyer, <br>
> they just do not get a deed until their obligations are fulfilled, <br>
> correct?<br>
><br>
> So the question is, can I file a quiet title action to establish <br>
> ownership in the party granting the real estate contract. Methinks the <br>
> answer is no..no??<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance,<br>
><br>
> Scott Hildebrand<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 08:44:49 -0800<br>
From: John McCrady <<a href="mailto:j.mccrady@pstitle.com">j.mccrady@pstitle.com</a>><br>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Real Estate Contract and Ownership<br>
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See also:<br>
Griffith v. Whittier, 37 Wn 2d 351; Kendrick v. Davis 75 Wn 2d 1456; Norlen v. Montgomery, 59 Wn 2d 269; Desmond v. Shotwell, 142 Wash 187<br>
<br>
Basically, the courts so construed Real Estate Contracts in such a way that a contract purchaser has all the elements of ownership except what we sometimes call the "naked fee", and the Real Estate Contract is really a species of mortgage.<br>
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John McCrady<br>
Counsel<br>
Puget Sound Title Company<br>
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From: wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com?">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Kary Krismer<br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 6:50 AM<br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Real Estate Contract and Ownership<br>
<br>
<br>
Absent a default, correct, and even then I think you'd likely have to go through the statutory procedure for forfeit out the interest.<br>
<br>
You might want to look at Cascade Security Bank v. Butler, 88 Wn2d 777 (1977) and maybe even Freeborn v. Seattle Trust, 94 Wn.2d 336 (1980), although to some extent these cases deal with perfection issues.<br>
<br>
Kary L. Krismer<br>
<br>
John L. Scott/KMS Renton<br>
<br>
206 723-2148<br>
On 1/23/2018 9:33 PM, Scott Hildebrand wrote:<br>
In Washington, we hardly ever deal with these things, so I thought I would throw it out to the group.<br>
<br>
I have a client who is trying to buy a house from someone who is the heir of the owner who gave a real estate contract to the current purported owner of the property.<br>
The purported owner has recorded no deed, but has recorded a real estate contract which includes phrasing that, upon completion of the payments, the buyer will receive a fulfillment deed.<br>
Apparently, something has gone wrong and the party granting a real estate contract wants to renig and sell to my client. They are arguing that the purported owner does not hold title because he never recorded a deed.<br>
I recall, from those many years ago, that a real estate contract or a "contract for deed" gives all the trappings of ownership to the buyer, they just do not get a deed until their obligations are fulfilled, correct?<br>
So the question is, can I file a quiet title action to establish ownership in the party granting the real estate contract. Methinks the answer is no..no??<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance,<br>
Scott Hildebrand<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 17:30:16 +0000<br>
From: Matt Johnson <<a href="mailto:Matt@gravislaw.com">Matt@gravislaw.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: [WSBARP] Land Use Referral - Benton County<br>
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All,<br>
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I am attempting to find someone well versed in conforming / non-conforming land use proceedings and disputes practicing in the Benton/Franklin County areas to assist us with a commercial matter.<br>
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Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
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