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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Steve, thanks for your posting.  You are right, the cases say that the disclaimer has to specifically list the liability and the provision must be “bargained for.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Whitehouse<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 2, 2017 12:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 39, Issue 2<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">No on the farm disclosures issues, but I would take a look at what the client has. The standard as-is language is probably not effective. Look at the cases which
 say that you have to be more specific in terms of what you are disclaiming liability for.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Stephen Whitehouse</span></b></em><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Whitehouse & Nichols, LLP</span></b></em><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">P.O. Box 1273</span></b></em><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">601 W. Railroad Ave.</span></b></em><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><em><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Shelton, Wa. 98584</span></b></em><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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1. Hey Dirt Heads! AS-IS Clause (Paul Neumiller)<br>
2. Re: International RE Development (DeLong, Arthur)<br>
3. Re: General question about Deeds (hhherman2)<br>
4. Re: International RE Development (Marc Holmes)<br>
5. Re: cell tower advice (Douglas W. Scott)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 20:25:32 +0000<br>
From: Paul Neumiller <<a href="mailto:pneumiller@hotmail.com">pneumiller@hotmail.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: [WSBARP] Hey Dirt Heads! AS-IS Clause<br>
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Client is selling an old farm/ranch. The property was previously owned by client's step-father who owned, gulp, a backhoe. Client does not specifically know of any buried problems but suspects that there may be buried horses, trash, the sort of things that
 farmers and ranchers used to bury. My standard disclaimer and AS-IS clause covers the typical hazardous and toxic waste/materials as defined by CERCLA etc but the client says he has seen a disclaimer specifically addressing old farms/ranches. Anyone seen anything
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BTW, congrats to the Sounders and GO HAWKS.<br>
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 21:23:48 +0000<br>
From: "DeLong, Arthur" <<a href="mailto:ADeLong@eisenhowerlaw.com">ADeLong@eisenhowerlaw.com</a>><br>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] International RE Development<br>
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Hi Marc,<br>
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I regularly do securities offerings, including accredited investor raises under 506(b) and 506(c), and real estate transactions. What is the size of the transaction that is being considered? I've also spent quite a bit of time in Ecuador as in my pre-law life
 I ran an importing business from Ecuador to the US and am quite passionate about that area of the world. I'd love to throw my hat in the ring to be of assistance!<br>
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Best,<br>
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Arthur<br>
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Arthur D DeLong, Attorney<br>
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From: wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com?">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Marc Holmes<br>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 11:09 AM<br>
To: 'WSBA Real Property Listserv'; wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
Subject: [WSBARP] International RE Development<br>
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Mates,<br>
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I need referrals for a party looking to set up a business entity that will invest in real estate in Ecuador. They will be raising outside capital and have questions about 506(c) crowd funding, etc.<br>
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 15:17:58 -0700<br>
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To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] General question about Deeds<br>
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Did you get an answer to your problem yet?<br>
Howard Herman?<br>
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-------- Original message --------From: Dave Culbertson <<a href="mailto:dculbertson@culbertsonlawoffice.com">dculbertson@culbertsonlawoffice.com</a>> Date: 11/27/17 5:11 PM (GMT-07:00) To: solo-and-small-practice-<a href="mailto:section@list.wsba.org">section@list.wsba.org</a>,
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I?m reviewing some document for a client. In the past, a parcel of land was deeded to them. The grantor made the deed out with a variation of the name with which they had received the parcel<br>
when they were the grantee. It was a minor variation, something along the lines of ?Bert Smith? instead of ?Albert H. Smith?. This could obviously trip up somebody who was searching land records by name of grantor or grantee. Made me curious about what kinds<br>
of problems, if any, that would cause in effecting the actual conveyance? Separately, what kind of problems would it cause in working with Title companies?<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 14:24:35 -0800<br>
From: "Marc Holmes" <<a href="mailto:marc@holmeslawgroup.com">marc@holmeslawgroup.com</a>><br>
To: "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] International RE Development<br>
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Thanks Arthur. I'll pass this along.<br>
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Marc Holmes<br>
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Holmes Law Group PLLC<br>
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2303 W. Commodore Way, # 306<br>
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Seattle WA 98199<br>
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From: wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
[<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com?">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of DeLong, Arthur<br>
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 1:24 PM<br>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] International RE Development<br>
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Hi Marc,<br>
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I regularly do securities offerings, including accredited investor raises<br>
under 506(b) and 506(c), and real estate transactions. What is the size of<br>
the transaction that is being considered? I've also spent quite a bit of<br>
time in Ecuador as in my pre-law life I ran an importing business from<br>
Ecuador to the US and am quite passionate about that area of the world. I'd<br>
love to throw my hat in the ring to be of assistance!<br>
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Best,<br>
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Arthur<br>
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Arthur D DeLong, Attorney<br>
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From: wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
[<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com?">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Marc Holmes<br>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 11:09 AM<br>
To: 'WSBA Real Property Listserv'; wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
Subject: [WSBARP] International RE Development<br>
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Mates,<br>
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I need referrals for a party looking to set up a business entity that will<br>
invest in real estate in Ecuador. They will be raising outside capital and<br>
have questions about 506(c) crowd funding, etc. <br>
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Marc Holmes<br>
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Holmes Law Group PLLC<br>
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2303 W. Commodore Way, # 306<br>
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Seattle WA 98199<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 00:04:49 +0000<br>
From: "Douglas W. Scott" <<a href="mailto:doug@davisscottlaw.com">doug@davisscottlaw.com</a>><br>
To: "cole-<a href="mailto:gilday@stanwoodlaw.net">gilday@stanwoodlaw.net</a>" <cole-<a href="mailto:gilday@stanwoodlaw.net">gilday@stanwoodlaw.net</a>>, "WSBA<br>
Real Property Listserv" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] cell tower advice<br>
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I have negotiated 2 cell tower deals with cell companies, one in the Arlington area and would be pleased to assist.<br>
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Douglas W. Scott<br>
Law Offices of Douglas W. Scott<br>
Windermere Building<br>
1810 15th Place NW, Suite 203<br>
Issaquah, Washington, 98027<br>
V. 425.392.8550<br>
F. 425-392-2829<br>
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From: wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com?">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Robert R. Cole<br>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 9:45 AM<br>
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
Subject: [WSBARP] cell tower advice<br>
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Need a referral. A former client is wanting to allow a cell tower on his land but is getting resistance from his neighbor who is wanting to stop it, and the county is dragging its feet. I will pass along any names suggested.<br>
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Very Truly Yours,<br>
Robert R. Cole<br>
Law Office of Cole & Gilday, P.C.<br>
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