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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Regarding tax sales, I would add one comment. This is old information so do not know if it still holds. It was my understanding that the IRS has a certain period
of time to redeem and then their lien goes away. In the past, you could contact the IRS to see if they intended to redeem. I would not rely on this as being currently accurate, but use it as something to look into.
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I need a simple mortgage form for a loan between father and son secured by real property in Oregon. I can?t find a Oregon site like our LPO forms. Can anyone send a mortgage form or a cite where I can find one? Thanks<br>
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The title company is probably worried about a claim.<br>
If the property was sold for fair market value, and the net sale proceeds split 4 ways among the three surviving children and the estate of the deceased child, I don?t see why anyone should care about the details of the sale.<br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] How to Request Information from Title Company?<br>
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Hello Listserve, your guidance is much appreciated... Here's what I know:<br>
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? H and W names on deed for their home<br>
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? H dies first, his will gives everything to W, no probate<br>
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? 1996 W dies, her will is filed in court, $20 fee paid, case number assigned<br>
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? W's will gives home to their 4 children equally (C1, C2, C3 and C4)<br>
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? 1997 Two of the children (C2 and C3) attempt to quit claim home to themselves. An excise tax affidavit was completed with W as Grantor and C2 and C3 as Grantee.<br>
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? 2005 C2 dies<br>
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? 2006 C1 coverts will only case to estate, gets letters of testamentary (assuming with non-intervention powers)<br>
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? January 2017, C1 completes a lack of probate for C2 indicating his heirs are his surviving wife and two children (one child is a minor)<br>
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? February 2017, C1 as personal representative of W?s estate sells home<br>
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? May 2017, C2 surviving wife opens his probate and of course C1 is filing claims in C2?s probate for C2 living at W?s home while he worked on getting it ready for sell.<br>
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? C3 and C4 are estranged from C1.<br>
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It seems to me, C1 as personal representative of W?s estate has the authority to properly sell the home as an asset of the estate (even though the quit claim deed and lack of probate for C2 were unnecessary).<br>
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However, something just isn?t sitting well with C2?s surviving wife, primarily because the title company?s manager was not willing to provide her any information even though she identified herself as PR for C2?s estate. Further, she would like to have all the
information provided to the title company by C1, like the Statement of Identity for C2, herself, and their children that was completed by C1. But she was told by the manager that she needs to get an attorney to request information from the title company??<br>
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Is there something here that I am missing? Why would the title company require her to have an attorney to request such information, specifically when the information is about her, her deceased husband and their two children?<br>
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 20:35:23 -0700<br>
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Title Gurus<br>
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I have a few clients interested in bidding on properties at tax sales. I am<br>
assuming that a tax sale will wipe out all encumbrances with the exception<br>
of IRS liens and super-priority HOA type liens. Anything else that I should<br>
be cautioning about??<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 04:04:04 +0000<br>
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No title insurance for three years. Inability to inspect structures, environmental liability.<br>
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Goldstein Law Office PLLC<br>
1800 Cooper Pt Rd SW #8<br>
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Title Gurus<br>
I have a few clients interested in bidding on properties at tax sales. I am assuming that a tax sale will wipe out all encumbrances with the exception of IRS liens and super-priority HOA type liens. Anything else that I should be cautioning about??<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Scott Hildebrand<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 06:54:07 -0700<br>
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There is no such site. You can buy a Stevens Ness Trust Deed online at their website. Most Oregon attorneys use the Stevens Ness form. I suspect they have a mortgage form, but I have not seen a mortgage used for a long time.<br>
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Aloha, OR 97078<br>
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Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 3:12 PM<br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] Oregon Mortgage<br>
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I need a simple mortgage form for a loan between father and son secured by real property in Oregon. I can?t find a Oregon site like our LPO forms. Can anyone send a mortgage form or a cite where I can find one? Thanks<br>
<br>
Josh<br>
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Joshua F. Grant, PS<br>
Attorney at Law<br>
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fax 509 647 2734<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 07:39:41 -0700<br>
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A timely question. What about a DSHS/Medicaid lien? (Sorry for perhaps<br>
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> No title insurance for three years. Inability to inspect structures,<br>
> environmental liability.<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
><br>
> Jay A. Goldstein<br>
> Goldstein Law Office PLLC<br>
> 1800 Cooper Pt Rd SW #8<br>
> Olympia, WA 98502<br>
> <a href="mailto:Jay@jaglaw.net">Jay@jaglaw.net</a><br>
> 360 352 1970 <(360)%20352-1970><br>
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> On Nov 2, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Scott Hildebrand <<a href="mailto:scott@starboard-strategies.%0b">scott@starboard-strategies.<br>
</a>> com> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Title Gurus<br>
><br>
> I have a few clients interested in bidding on properties at tax sales. I<br>
> am assuming that a tax sale will wipe out all encumbrances with the<br>
> exception of IRS liens and super-priority HOA type liens. Anything else<br>
> that I should be cautioning about??<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Scott Hildebrand<br>
><br>
> Attorney at Law<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 15:12:19 +0000<br>
From: Marcus Fry <<a href="mailto:mfry@lyon-law.com">mfry@lyon-law.com</a>><br>
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Medicaid liens are not given a priority, akin to a mortgage/deed of trust, i.e. effective as of date of recording. Thus, inferior to real estate taxes.<br>
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A timely question. What about a DSHS/Medicaid lien? (Sorry for perhaps using inaccurate term - state lien for health care costs paid). I just punted on this very question in a call from a PC yesterday.<br>
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No title insurance for three years. Inability to inspect structures, environmental liability.<br>
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Title Gurus<br>
I have a few clients interested in bidding on properties at tax sales. I am assuming that a tax sale will wipe out all encumbrances with the exception of IRS liens and super-priority HOA type liens. Anything else that I should be cautioning about??<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Scott Hildebrand<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 15:58:14 +0000<br>
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I have discovered that a deed purports to convey my client's property to another (the second deed was filed by the PR of the Estate of the person who sold their property to my client).<br>
<br>
How would you prepare a correction deed? Would you get a certified copy of the deed and type on it that it is a correction deed and cross out the legal description of my clients property? Or, would you prepare another deed called "correction deed," explain
the situation in that new deed and attach the old deed to this new deed for recording?<br>
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Or, do you have a better way?<br>
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Let me know.<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 09:45:57 -0700<br>
From: John McCrady <<a href="mailto:j.mccrady@pstitle.com">j.mccrady@pstitle.com</a>><br>
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Just a couple quick thoughts:<br>
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A properly conducted tax sale "initiates a new and complete title", with certain exceptions. (Messett vs. Cowell, 1914 Wash 6146; City of Walla Walla v. State of Wn., 197 Wash 357; Anderson v. Grays Harbor, 149 Wn 2d 89; Eagles v. Gen. Elec. Co., 5 Wn 2d 20).<br>
<br>
A tax sale will not eliminate pre-existing public and private easements and common CCR's. City of Olympia v. Palzer, Nor will it eliminate certain covenants to pay assessments. 42 Wn. App. 751 Lake Arrowhead Club v. Lunv, 112 Wn.2d 288<br>
<br>
The IRS considers that property taxes and assessments are superior to its tax liens. IRC ? 6323(b)(6) IRC ? 6323(b)(6)<br>
<br>
The tax sale does not eliminate certain assessment liens levied by municipalities. Pierce County v. Schwab, 48 Wn. App. 418.)<br>
<br>
I am not aware of any priority that homeowner's assessments have over property taxes. I would welcome enlightenment on that.<br>
<br>
John McCrady<br>
Counsel<br>
Puget Sound Title Company<br>
5350 Orchard Street West<br>
University Place WA 98467<br>
253-476-5721<br>
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From: wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com?">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Scott Hildebrand<br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] Tax Sale Question<br>
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Title Gurus<br>
I have a few clients interested in bidding on properties at tax sales. I am assuming that a tax sale will wipe out all encumbrances with the exception of IRS liens and super-priority HOA type liens. Anything else that I should be cautioning about??<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Scott Hildebrand<br>
Attorney at Law<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 10:01:35 -0700<br>
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I prefer to see a new deed executed by the PR (assuming still serving as such) that contains a recital to the effect that it "supersedes and replaces prior deed recorded under __________, which instrument contained an erroneous legal description."<br>
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I also like to see the grantee's acknowledgement on the corrective deed, but I don't require that.<br>
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To me this is the clearest statement that the new property was the property intended to be conveyed<br>
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John McCrady<br>
Counsel<br>
Puget Sound Title Company<br>
5350 Orchard Street West<br>
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253-476-5721<br>
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From: wsbarp-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com?">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Catherine Clark<br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] Proper Way to Draft a Correction Deed?<br>
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All:<br>
<br>
I have discovered that a deed purports to convey my client's property to another (the second deed was filed by the PR of the Estate of the person who sold their property to my client).<br>
<br>
How would you prepare a correction deed? Would you get a certified copy of the deed and type on it that it is a correction deed and cross out the legal description of my clients property? Or, would you prepare another deed called "correction deed," explain
the situation in that new deed and attach the old deed to this new deed for recording?<br>
<br>
Or, do you have a better way?<br>
<br>
Let me know.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Catherine C. Clark<br>
Law Office of Catherine C. Clark PLLC<br>
2200 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1250<br>
Seattle, WA 98121<br>
Phone: (206) 838-2528<br>
Direct Dial: (206) 274-7941<br>
Cell: (206) 409-8938<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 10:04:44 -0700<br>
From: "Rob Wilson-Hoss" <<a href="mailto:rob@hctc.com">rob@hctc.com</a>><br>
To: "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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HOA liens are not prior. Not only that, if the property doesn't sell then<br>
the County owns it and the County doesn't have to pay HOA assessments while<br>
it owns it. Makes for some interesting calculations and decisions with a<br>
number of variables when an association is faced with a tax sale of one of<br>
its parcels. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
But as John says, the restrictive covenants are ongoing and not eliminated<br>
and apply after the tax lien. The restrictive covenants that required<br>
assessments after tax sale used to mean the County had to pay when it owned,<br>
but legislation changed that. <br>
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Rob<br>
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 9:46 AM<br>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv<br>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Tax Sale Question<br>
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<br>
<br>
Just a couple quick thoughts:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
A properly conducted tax sale ?initiates a new and complete title?, with<br>
certain exceptions. (Messett vs. Cowell, 1914 Wash 6146; City of Walla Walla<br>
v. State of Wn., 197 Wash 357; Anderson v. Grays Harbor, 149 Wn 2d 89;<br>
Eagles v. Gen. Elec. Co., 5 Wn 2d 20).<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
A tax sale will not eliminate pre-existing public and private easements and<br>
common CCR?s. City of Olympia v. Palzer, Nor will it eliminate certain<br>
covenants to pay assessments. 42 Wn. App. 751 Lake Arrowhead Club v. Lunv,<br>
112 Wn.2d 288<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The IRS considers that property taxes and assessments are superior to its<br>
tax liens. IRC ? 6323(b)(6) IRC ? 6323(b)(6)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The tax sale does not eliminate certain assessment liens levied by<br>
municipalities. Pierce County v. Schwab, 48 Wn. App. 418.)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I am not aware of any priority that homeowner?s assessments have over<br>
property taxes. I would welcome enlightenment on that.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
John McCrady<br>
<br>
Counsel<br>
<br>
Puget Sound Title Company<br>
<br>
5350 Orchard Street West<br>
<br>
University Place WA 98467<br>
<br>
253-476-5721<br>
<br>
<a href="mailto:j.mccrady@pstitle.com">j.mccrady@pstitle.com</a><br>
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To: 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: [WSBARP] Tax Sale Question<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Title Gurus<br>
<br>
I have a few clients interested in bidding on properties at tax sales. I am<br>
assuming that a tax sale will wipe out all encumbrances with the exception<br>
of IRS liens and super-priority HOA type liens. Anything else that I should<br>
be cautioning about??<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Scott Hildebrand<br>
<br>
Attorney at Law<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 10:06:16 -0700<br>
From: John McCrady <<a href="mailto:j.mccrady@pstitle.com">j.mccrady@pstitle.com</a>><br>
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And, as I understand the facts, C2 was not a party to the current transaction. As such, I don?t believe the title company was authorized to give C2 any information about the sale.<br>
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John McCrady<br>
Counsel<br>
Puget Sound Title Company<br>
5350 Orchard Street West<br>
University Place WA 98467<br>
253-476-5721<br>
<a href="mailto:j.mccrady@pstitle.com">j.mccrady@pstitle.com</a><br>
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To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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The title company is probably worried about a claim.<br>
If the property was sold for fair market value, and the net sale proceeds split 4 ways among the three surviving children and the estate of the deceased child, I don?t see why anyone should care about the details of the sale.<br>
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Rod Harmon<br>
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RODNEY T. HARMON<br>
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Hello Listserve, your guidance is much appreciated... Here's what I know:<br>
<br>
? H and W names on deed for their home<br>
<br>
? H dies first, his will gives everything to W, no probate<br>
<br>
? 1996 W dies, her will is filed in court, $20 fee paid, case number assigned<br>
<br>
? W's will gives home to their 4 children equally (C1, C2, C3 and C4)<br>
<br>
? 1997 Two of the children (C2 and C3) attempt to quit claim home to themselves. An excise tax affidavit was completed with W as Grantor and C2 and C3 as Grantee.<br>
<br>
? 2005 C2 dies<br>
<br>
? 2006 C1 coverts will only case to estate, gets letters of testamentary (assuming with non-intervention powers)<br>
<br>
? January 2017, C1 completes a lack of probate for C2 indicating his heirs are his surviving wife and two children (one child is a minor)<br>
<br>
? February 2017, C1 as personal representative of W?s estate sells home<br>
<br>
? May 2017, C2 surviving wife opens his probate and of course C1 is filing claims in C2?s probate for C2 living at W?s home while he worked on getting it ready for sell.<br>
<br>
? C3 and C4 are estranged from C1.<br>
<br>
It seems to me, C1 as personal representative of W?s estate has the authority to properly sell the home as an asset of the estate (even though the quit claim deed and lack of probate for C2 were unnecessary).<br>
<br>
However, something just isn?t sitting well with C2?s surviving wife, primarily because the title company?s manager was not willing to provide her any information even though she identified herself as PR for C2?s estate. Further, she would like to have all the
information provided to the title company by C1, like the Statement of Identity for C2, herself, and their children that was completed by C1. But she was told by the manager that she needs to get an attorney to request information from the title company??<br>
<br>
Is there something here that I am missing? Why would the title company require her to have an attorney to request such information, specifically when the information is about her, her deceased husband and their two children?<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 17:09:38 +0000<br>
From: Richard Holland <<a href="mailto:rich@pnwle.com">rich@pnwle.com</a>><br>
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In my experience, if it is a 'clerical error' you get a certified copy and make the cross-out and re-record. That's for misspelling names, or status or address. When I have had to do it with a legal, it is essentially what you have mentioned but rather than
'x'ing out the legal with a typewriter word by word, it's a permanent marker with one big x or something so that the old legal is still essentially legible and the 'corrected' legal is down below it - all preferably and an Exhibit A. HOWEVER, the first thing
to do is check with the Title Company you hope will insure this and with the Auditor's office. It can vary by Title Company and by County. Some Auditors want a separate cover page (regardless of whether one would otherwise be needed), for example, so that
the 'new' recording number is not on the same page as the 'original' recording number.<br>
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Just my experience.<br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] Proper Way to Draft a Correction Deed?<br>
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All:<br>
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I have discovered that a deed purports to convey my client's property to another (the second deed was filed by the PR of the Estate of the person who sold their property to my client).<br>
<br>
How would you prepare a correction deed? Would you get a certified copy of the deed and type on it that it is a correction deed and cross out the legal description of my clients property? Or, would you prepare another deed called "correction deed," explain
the situation in that new deed and attach the old deed to this new deed for recording?<br>
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Or, do you have a better way?<br>
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Let me know.<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 18:07:53 +0000<br>
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If the debtors are still in the residence, you need to eject and not use the unlawful detainer laws.<br>
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Subject: [WSBARP] Tax Sale Question<br>
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Title Gurus<br>
I have a few clients interested in bidding on properties at tax sales. I am assuming that a tax sale will wipe out all encumbrances with the exception of IRS liens and super-priority HOA type liens. Anything else that I should be cautioning about??<br>
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 11:28:16 -0700<br>
From: "Ms. Roberta Armstrong" <<a href="mailto:robertaa@uw.edu">robertaa@uw.edu</a>><br>
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Thank you for the replies...<br>
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Seems to me that C2 is a party, since C2 is an heir of H and of W. There's<br>
no recorded transfer from H's interest in the home to W. Thus C2 has<br>
interest in H's portion...?<br>
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On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:06 AM, John McCrady <<a href="mailto:j.mccrady@pstitle.com">j.mccrady@pstitle.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> And, as I understand the facts, C2 was not a party to the current<br>
> transaction. As such, I don?t believe the title company was authorized to<br>
> give C2 any information about the sale.<br>
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> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] How to Request Information from Title Company?<br>
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> The title company is probably worried about a claim.<br>
><br>
> If the property was sold for fair market value, and the net sale proceeds<br>
> split 4 ways among the three surviving children and the estate of the<br>
> deceased child, I don?t see why anyone should care about the details of the<br>
> sale.<br>
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> *Subject:* [WSBARP] How to Request Information from Title Company?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Hello Listserve, your guidance is much appreciated... Here's what I know:<br>
><br>
> ? H and W names on deed for their home<br>
><br>
> ? H dies first, his will gives everything to W, no probate<br>
><br>
> ? 1996 W dies, her will is filed in court, $20 fee paid, case<br>
> number assigned<br>
><br>
> ? W's will gives home to their 4 children equally (C1, C2, C3 and<br>
> C4)<br>
><br>
> ? 1997 Two of the children (C2 and C3) attempt to quit claim home<br>
> to themselves. An excise tax affidavit was completed with W as Grantor and<br>
> C2 and C3 as Grantee.<br>
><br>
> ? 2005 C2 dies<br>
><br>
> ? 2006 C1 coverts will only case to estate, gets letters of<br>
> testamentary (assuming with non-intervention powers)<br>
><br>
> ? January 2017, C1 completes a lack of probate for C2 indicating<br>
> his heirs are his surviving wife and two children (one child is a minor)<br>
><br>
> ? February 2017, C1 as personal representative of W?s estate<br>
> sells home<br>
><br>
> ? May 2017, C2 surviving wife opens his probate and of course C1<br>
> is filing claims in C2?s probate for C2 living at W?s home while he worked<br>
> on getting it ready for sell.<br>
><br>
> ? C3 and C4 are estranged from C1.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> It seems to me, C1 as personal representative of W?s estate has the<br>
> authority to properly sell the home as an asset of the estate *(even<br>
> though the quit claim deed and lack of probate for C2 were unnecessary).*<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> However, something just isn?t sitting well with C2?s surviving wife,<br>
> primarily because the title company?s manager was not willing to provide<br>
> her any information even though she identified herself as PR for C2?s<br>
> estate. Further, she would like to have all the information provided to the<br>
> title company by C1, like the Statement of Identity for C2, herself, and<br>
> their children that was completed by C1. But she was told by the manager<br>
> that she needs to get an attorney to request information from the title<br>
> company??<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Is there something here that I am missing? Why would the title company<br>
> require her to have an attorney to request such information, specifically<br>
> when the information is about her, her deceased husband and their two<br>
> children?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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